Wednesday, July 22, 2009

Pocket Market at Olympic Medical Center

There is now a miniature farmers market on Tuesdays at Olympic Medical Center. It’s from 2:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. outside Season’s Café.

The patient-care shift changes at 3 p.m., so there are several hundred OMC employees on the premises during this period. Graciela Harris, director of nutrition services at OMC, said: “We want to encourage folks to adopt a healthier lifestyle. We want to make it as easy as possible, and this is one way to move in the right direction.”

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40 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny, there was another new market left out of the article.
The Port Angeles Community Market is starting this Sunday 7/26 at the Gateway Center from 11-4
For more information: www.portangelesmarket.com

11:54 AM, July 22, 2009  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Thanks, I didn't know about that.

11:57 AM, July 22, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the deal with the farmer's market, anyway? Couldn't they share the Gateway with the Rotary!!

"The 3-D display won't be at The Gateway because the Wednesday Port Angeles Farmers Market has booked the location.

Reiss said he was told by the city that he could use it prior to the Wednesday farmers market taking up residence there last month."

http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20090722/NEWS/307229987

These "farmers" at the Weds/Sat market are really acting like a bunch of boomer babies..."me me me". How can they live with themselves!

1:56 PM, July 22, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh wow! PDN allows readers comments now. Amazing! And they're putting columnists' works on their site. Heck, at this rate, they'll have a decent, 2005-style website by 2015!

"How can they live with themselves!"

It's been my experience that those kinds of people live with themselves just fine.

3:29 PM, July 22, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah, that's the problem. Those that are insufferable, tend to think their poop is carried away in little baggies by angels -- no stink at all. The reality...the stench is more than the rest of us can stand.
Unfortunately, they are so oblivious....to the damage they do.

4:39 PM, July 22, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know you kind of sound like the owners of that high priced clothing store that helped kick the market off of Laurel St in the lst place.

10:38 PM, July 23, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nooo...what clothing store and what kicked out of Laurel?
I'm a supporter of the Rotary..and a fairly newcomer to the area. I just find it amazing that a farmer's market can be so disconnected to the community and so self-serving. Never seen that before.

9:25 AM, July 24, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comment is for Anonymous at 9:25. You probably ought to get your facts straight before you start calling names.

The Farmers' Market was on Laurel Street every Saturday. Necessities and Temptations and the Toggery and several other stores got together and decided that the riffraff should be removed. They got a lawyer, found a loophole in the permit, and got the Farmers' Market evicted. Most of the other merchants and townspeople were (and are) appalled. But they made it stick.

It's common knowledge, backed up by studies done by every community group in America, that a downtown Farmers' market brings lots of people into downtown, where they shop, eat lunch, etc. It's a huge boon for a downtown, and boy does our downtown need every boon it can get.

The Farmers' market folks were betrayed by City Hall, the PADA, etc. and then thrown out, told they were hindering business in town, etc. Basically, one of the "high end clothing store people" came right out and said "They're not our kind, and these aren't my customers." Well, excuuuuuuuse us.

If the Market can make a go of it at Gateway, that will be wonderful. We need our family farms, we need to be able to buy good organic stuff, and that's what a town center like Gateway should be for. Two afternoons a week is all it'll be -- I hardly think that impacts Rotary or any other group.

Hope this clears it up for you somewhat.

1:00 PM, July 24, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom,
What about the other new market...http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20090724/NEWS/307249993

1:56 PM, July 24, 2009  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

My next post will be on the Port Angeles Community Market.

2:07 PM, July 24, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait, poster from 1pm
Why in the heck do I need to know all this OLD HISTORY? Who cares?

Reminds me of this Zen Story:
Tanzan and Ekido were once traveling together down a muddy road. A heavy rain was still falling.

Coming around a bend, they met a lovely girl in a silk kimono and sash, unable to cross the intersection.

"Come on, girl," said Tanzan at once. Lifting her in his arms, he carried her over the mud.

Ekido did not speak again until that night when they reached a lodging temple. Then he no longer could restrain himself. "We monks don't go near females," he told Tanzan, "especially not young and lovely ones. It is dangerous. Why did you do that?"

"I left the girl there," said Tanzan. "Are you still carrying her?"

3:31 PM, July 24, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Rotary should have been able to set up their sand stuff, and chalk art...and not have been told NO by the Farmers Market
Why can't we all just get along....
I thought hippy farmers were into CUMBAYA...

3:38 PM, July 24, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re 1:00 PM, July 24, 2009 Comment:

My understanding is that the Rotary reserved and paid for the use of the pavilion weeks ago. They even contacted the Farmers Market about working together to share the space. To which the Farmers Market somewhat rudely told them to 'take a hike' and they would not/could not share, or were even open to discussing options.

The Farmers Market, who is getting the pavilion free of charge, pulled strings and forced the popular 5 day long Rotary event out completely. Just so the Farmers Market could have 6 vendors setup for a few hours on Wednesday.

Seems like the Farmers Market is unconscionably self-centered and not even attempting to play nice with others.

This is particularly galling because the Farmers Market makes a big point of vocalizing how it really doesn't want to be downtown, or at the Gateway. Your post is evidence of this attitude.

3:58 PM, July 24, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Farmers Market "management" if you want to call it that, haven't got a clue and couldn't find one if you presented it to them on a silver platter.

I'm tired of hearing the blame Edna, blame the Toggery, blame McLean's Shoes when the "management" of the Farmers Market couldn't fill out the paperwork correctly. They lost their place because of their own arrogance and stupidity, not because of some clever legal manuever.

The Farmers Market people seem to think the city owes them big time just 'cause.

6:30 PM, July 24, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please note that the PADA was in support of keeping the Farmers Market on Laurel St and not the other way around.

7:21 PM, July 24, 2009  
Anonymous grudge guy said...

That's a nice parable several comments ago about "are you still carrying her?" But certain downtown issues and the local economy are too volatile and too pressing on everybodys mind, to just be "let go" like water under the bridge.

It's true that the PADA and the farmers market were on the same side 4 years ago. They both accused each other of dropping the ball, not being on the same page, not handling it right, and they're probably both right.

So the farmers market "didn't fill out paperwork correctly" -- OMG! Funny how that earth shaking fact didn't seem to matter until the gang of 8 hired a lawyer to convince the city council to "take another look" at the issue.

Political corruption is everywhere, but I've never seen anything as blatant as the city council and that lame president of the planning commission, the way they handled the farmers market situation 4 years ago. That planning commission meeting was disgraceful, the kind of thing you expect to see in some backward country in Africa or Central America. Len Rassmussen (he isn't there any more) ran that meeting like is own private kingdom. I don't know who he was taking orders from, but a few local good old boys were obviously pulling his strings. Every time somebody at that packed meeting spoke in favor of the farmers market, Len Rassmussen would cut them off every 5 seconds with "focus!" "what's that got to do with land use?" "time's up!" There were only about 3 or 4 people who spoke against the market and they were allowed to plod on and on and on.

I don't know who Len Rasmussen was bending over for, but bend he did. And gyrate. And thrust.

Sorry for the crude description, this comment probably won't get printed but I'm just ranting.

The crooked way this whole issue was handled 4 years ago was disgraceful. It was painfully obvious that what the public wanted, and most downtown merchants wanted, was totally irrelevant to the city council and the gang of 8. The planning commission actually voted in favor of the market in spite of all the spewings from King Len.

But there are lots of downtown business owners and local citizens who have not forgotten that blatant vulgar display of corrupt power 4 years ago.

9:56 PM, July 24, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well stated with the correct facts.

I don't mind bending backwards for customers, clients and this community, however as soon as I get the feeling that I'm being bent foward, well that ain't going to happen.

The folks at the Farmers Market I would think have a bad taste in their mouth. Wouldn't you!

7:06 AM, July 25, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Bitter and Angry,
I'm just reading all this this morning and aghast. What is wrong with you? FOUR YEARS AGO??!!
It was a different world four years ago -- tourists, jobs, thriving economy.
You must like clinging to the victim mode. How sad for you. How very sad for the market.
Seems the farmer's market has gotten used flinging their hands in the air and sighing loudly "Poor little me, oh woe is me", and come to enjoy that bitter flavor. The victim stuff is so old, and so outdated. It's so inappropriate for a business.
As those in junior high school say "BFD".
As a relative newcomer (3 years), all I can say is So-fu**ing-what!!! Grow up, get over it, get counseling, do something.
You've let this define you, and that's a very sad thing.
All you are dong is turning me even MORE off to the Farmers Market.
I cannot believe what I am reading. I didn't realize the petty stuff was so important to keep dragging around. Listen to yourself. What sort of shallow human beings cling to a negative event like this? Does it feel good? It cannot.
I was wondering why it was such a downer to go to the market...now I know. I had no idea. Shame on you
Bad sports. You lost, someone else won. Shake hands and accept it. You must not have played the game well. You are still in the game. Better luck next time.
As I tell my son when he loses in baseball "being a good sport is more important than winning". I also tell him to play fair, and be gracious. I am assuming your mother never said this to you.
Nothing in life is fair, and if you all haven't learned this by now -- you shouldn't be in business, any business.
To sum it up: Ancient history. Old news. Stale bread. Wilted vegetables. Dead cat. Sour milk.
The sad thing: it's obvious you've made this the culture of the market.
If you cannot get over this slight, then my best advice: Kill it NOW and put it out of all our misery.
Signed,
Shaking head in disgust

8:05 AM, July 25, 2009  
Anonymous Doctor Nosferatu, NoGoodnik said...

"...I don't know who he was taking orders from ..."

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha!

That would be me. Utilizing my patented power of Evil Mind Control, I compel nitwits to do my bidding!

My friends at Monsanto and ConAgra and I are developing a fourth farmers market which will lovely vegetables and yummy foodstuffs made with 100% GMO, high fructose corn syrup, additives and preservatives. This new market will be known as Big Industrial Farmers Market, or BIFM for short.

Already my minions on the City Council are agog for all the lucre they will receive on the side, and in their Swiss bank accounts which my friends at USB have created for them, from Monsanto and ConAgra.

Another brick in my unstoppable wall of evil!

8:27 AM, July 25, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Anonymous at 8:05: Wherever it is you came from 3 years ago, kindly return there. That must be a place where it's okay for the few to call all the shots for the many, where people don't care that their downtown is struggling and they throw out one of the things that's keeping it alive, and where it's considered "pathetic" or whatever to remember the past and TRY NOT TO REPEAT IT.

This I REPEAT: Go home.

1:27 PM, July 25, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not seeing the market's defense here.

Paperwork always matters in business. Contracts need to be read, and re-read, understood, and you have guard your interests, and close loopholes.

What did the market's leaders think? Business is on the honor system? (Har har har, that's a good one.)

I have some advice: Don't be so niave!

As the story is rehashed, the market was stupid, and somebody saw an opportunity to stick it to them. So, the real question is: Why? Who'd the market piss off?

WaaWaaa: sour grapes. Time to man up. This shits nothing special, and happens all the damn time.

That's BUSINESS.

Ever heard these expressions:
dot the i's and cross the t's
CYA - cover your ass
mind your P's and Q's

Always easier to blame the bad, heartless meanies than blame yourselves.

5:38 PM, July 25, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:27
Downtown is shot for more than just the market being booted out. Get your head out of the sand (or your behind) -- the country is screwed up, we're in debt by trillions of dollars, among other things.
Nice attitude, though, send everyone who doesn't agree with you away. That will really go far.

5:41 PM, July 25, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason this farmers market issue keeps getting rehashed over and over again is because we don't know if the same thing would happen again today. If the good old boy network has loosened its stranglehold on the community, most people would let bygones be bygones.

Has anything changed at city hall since then, that would give more of a voice to the public and the hundreds of small businesses here, instead of automatic veto power for a few oligarchs? There are a few new faces on the city council, a new city manager, some talk about transparency and openness. These are all great signs. I hope this really means something and isn't just slogans and cosmetic changes. I guess we'll find out the next time there's a major disagreement with hundreds of small businesses on one side and 8 oligarchs on the other side.

7:21 PM, July 25, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are all the markets supporters so mean spirited ("I REPEAT, Go Home")?
Makes sense they pissed someone off....and caused a chain reaction to get them booted. And, since they got bullied, now THEY bully the Rotary?
Is that what I can sum up from this set of posts?

7:34 PM, July 25, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 1:27, your manner is highly offensive. If you're part of the market, you're a great display of their whiney, victimized attitude. With your stellar charm you're a great asset to the downtown scene.

As Anonymous 5:38 said, it's a business. If you can't get the forms filled out correctly and a lawyer finds a loophole, that will be exploited. Too bad for the market, but as someone said before, their management is pathetic.

The market on Laurel was a nice idea but it impacted a lot of businesses negatively. Edna, the Toggery and Mclean's weren't the only businesses who had issues with blocking off a major street twice a week. Edna's tactics may have been a little strong, but she managed to fill up a petition with nearly everyone in the downtown area.

There's a lot of blame to go around, but please don't make the market out to be innocents who fell prey to the evil machinations of "the powers behind the scenes" (pace, Dr. Nosferatu!). If the market management had done their job they would have a legal leg to stand on, as the mangement didn't do their job ... them's the breaks, kiddo!

7:35 PM, July 25, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 8:05...

"...dong is turning me even MORE off..."

You really should spell check things. On the other hand, I haven't laughed that hard in a long long time. So, thank you...

7:44 PM, July 25, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:00 P.M. 7/24
You are misstating the facts. A petition was sidned by 65 members of the Downtown Association objecting to the regular Saturday closing of Laurel Street. Never before or since has there been such a number advocating a position. It ws not only eight or ten or twenty -it was at least 65.
None of them aver advocated against the Market or against it being downtown.the only objecvtion was the closure of one of only three streets that connect Railroad Ave. with Front Street and also is the main route off the Coho.
An rf\effort was also made to keep the Market Downtown by proposing alternative locations. The one who kepps being named as the chief protaginist-Edna- also made contact with the owner and made arrangements for the parking lot at first and Laurel and even offered to help underwrite the rental-that offer was refused. Later tht location has become acceptable and has been used.
No one was paid off at City hall; no one "wanted the riff raff" removed; no one wanted the Market out of Downtown.
An overwhelming number of Downtown Association members wanted the use of a city street back for the convenience of their customers, the travelers, and themselves.
It was the Farmer's Market that decided to go for an all nothing approach by declaring that their downtown locaion had to be Laurel Street or not at all. Having taken such a position it apparently was a bitter pill when the planning commission and the Council decided that a street should be a street rather than a market place.
re: Grudge Guy 9:56 7/24 Your comments are wrong, wrong, wrong and filled with hatred and malice.
Your observations about how the meetings were handled are wrong. Your suggestion that there was corruption is wrong. You are mis characterizing everythng that happened and you arte only fosterin hatred and contempt where ther should be after all these years an attempt at cooperation and healing and finding solutions that are good and acceptable.

1:34 PM, July 26, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you, Anonymous 1:34, for setting the facts straight.

Did anyone see the letter from the Edna Hater in today's paper? Fortunately, Edna was allowed to rebut this sad person's allegations and candidly and lucidly present her side of the story.

6:46 PM, July 26, 2009  
Anonymous legalguy said...

Correction: the market was on Laurel between FIRST and FRONT, not Railroad and Front. There was no impact of the ferry traffic.
The document in question had only a few downtown merchants (many of which have closed). There were many unverified signatures, some illegible, as well as people not in the area, and not merchants, nor impacted. This document was never examined for validity. No one re-interviewed the merchants. Nothing was examined. There lacked due diligence
The real issue may have been the market vendors PARKING between Front and Railroad on Laurel, and on Railroad: an sore point with merchants in that area. Instead of clarification to work out a parking issue (which is an issue with many markets) it escalated to a lot of finger pointing, accusations, yada yada.
Nevertheless, the questions remain: did the Market fight it logically? Did they do a PR campaign to counteract the complaints? Were they willing to compromise or have this mediated? Did they have quantitative analysis to show what $$ was being brought to the downtown by the market's presence? Did they engage an attorney to present their point of view?
I don't believe any of this is true, but, please, anyone, correct me if I'm mistaken.
What was done, is done. All this hand wringing over spilled milk is a moot point. The matter should now be laid to rest. It does not help the market TODAY. It makes the market look bad to have the jackals jumping up and down, finger pointing and repeating the old bitter recollections. If this had been a divorce, the kids would have suffered. In this case, it's the community that's suffered.
As I urge my clients: Let it go, get on with life.

8:39 PM, July 26, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And which city council candidate is using the "Edna kicked the farmers market out of downtown" as his campaign theme ... ?

6:35 AM, July 27, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's nothing wrong with moving on, we've done that! However how can you just erase the history that we all went thru? I for one won't be voting for Edna for the council seat she is wanting, even though I do like Edna. Oh, wait I can't vote I live in the County.
;-(

The facts are that the petition that went around had alot of strong armed twisting involved.
The majority of the downtown business wanted to keep the market on Laurel St. The minority won out. Plain and simple. All of the documentation for support that the planning commision had never made it to the city council. And yes, someone was in Len Rassmussen pocket. I think it was Gorge from the Barber Shop. His Senior Customers love to be able to park right in front and not walk a few blocks to get their hair cut.

The majority of the downtown business loss business because of the Market being kicked off of Laurel St! I know it hurt my business!

Ya, I've moved on but don't ask me to forget about my history.

7:48 AM, July 27, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

erase the history you've been through?!!!
How about figuring out how stupid you were, and what you DIDN'T do right and not doing that any more.
The farmers market has this aura of bitchy board members, and freaky attitudes, and a huge chip (2x4) on the shoulder. These last posts have shown that.
Advice: STOP, let it rest. You cannot protect your self if you keep focusing on the past. Things never happen the same way twice. Try looking forward for a change.

10:28 AM, July 27, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believ eth farmers market was kicked out of downtown. The Masons and the Illuminati got together with the Trilateral Commission in a bunker deep under the Swiss Alps and contacted the space aliens who wanted Laurel Street to land their space craft. Edna was just a tool in their evil conspiracy! People in City Hall got paid off in Confederate money! Deals were done, things were said. It was real cloak and dagger stuff!

Don't believe me? Hey, Elvis told me so when we were having a few brews at the Other Side!

1:16 PM, July 27, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess all that I've learn over the years I should just throw out the window, move on and listen to you. HA

Oh, Life is Good and I'm quite happy with the business I have here in downtown.

1:47 PM, July 27, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chances are you really learned NOTHING over the years with that attitude. Who ever said old people were smart--only a few become wise.

5:03 PM, July 27, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't believe you HAVE a business downtown. Seriously. Really everyone I've spoken to is complaining and fearful of even getting through this summer.
I don't know of any business really doing great (laughing all the way to the bank). Except, perhaps the local drug dealers who deal downtown. Is that YOU, buddy?

5:05 PM, July 27, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I guess all that I've learn over the years .."
You didn't learn grammar.

Sentence should read: I guess with all that I have learned over the years....

Yup, another PA genius

9:07 PM, July 27, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually I've learned quite a bit over the years and the lst thing I've learn is to not listen to the likes of you.

I have another 2yr lease and don't plan on moving anytime soon. Like I said, "Life is Good" and I keep paying all of my bills. I'm one of those Debt Free guys on the street. ;-)

9:50 PM, July 27, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

C'mon, now ... keep it classy Port Angeles.

4:06 AM, July 28, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are doing so well downtown...then what service do you provide.
How can this be possible when tourism is way down, when the big "department store"is closed, when the former site of Penny's is DSHA, when every other business is flailing -- especially the restaurants, and tourism is at less than half what it was last year, which was a down year. We have probably a realistic number of 20% unemployed (the government numbers only account for those currently ON unemployment rolls). Petty theft is way up. Welfare is up. WIC payments are up. Even the used stores are crying "poor". Safeway and Albertsons have both had losses, and Walmart won't report of if they did or didn't, but all the analysts thing they have had a decline. Costco has reported same store earnings from July 08 to July 09 are down.
If you're doing so damn well, then you're either a super genius, or you're fibbing. Or you are the candy store....as that is probably the ONLY business that I could guess MIGHT be able to make money in this economy -- parents with kids who need treats.

5:54 PM, July 28, 2009  

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