City of Port Angeles Being Investigated by Auditor's Office
Kim Hurley, manager of special investigations for the State Auditor's Office, has e-mailed the city regarding potential conflicts of interest.
She has requested documents related to several recent projects, including:
Construction of the Eighth Street bridges and Dry Creek bridge;
Acquisition of property for The Gateway transit center;
Travel expenses for Karen Rogers and Mark Madsen;
Contracts with Exeltech Consulting Inc.; and
Payments to Capacity Provisioning Inc., Fred Hill Materials, The Remediators Inc., Advanced Composite Technologies Inc. and Clallam Business Incubator.
City Manager Kent Myers said he has "no idea what the basis of it is. I think that our records are in order."
Karen Rogers said:
"The state auditor spends hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayers' money on these anonymous allegations. This latest anonymous allegation is another of these types of unfounded allegations."
She has requested documents related to several recent projects, including:
Construction of the Eighth Street bridges and Dry Creek bridge;
Acquisition of property for The Gateway transit center;
Travel expenses for Karen Rogers and Mark Madsen;
Contracts with Exeltech Consulting Inc.; and
Payments to Capacity Provisioning Inc., Fred Hill Materials, The Remediators Inc., Advanced Composite Technologies Inc. and Clallam Business Incubator.
City Manager Kent Myers said he has "no idea what the basis of it is. I think that our records are in order."
Karen Rogers said:
"The state auditor spends hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayers' money on these anonymous allegations. This latest anonymous allegation is another of these types of unfounded allegations."
posted by Tom Harper at 12:57 AM
93 Comments:
hehehe This is going to be fun!!!
Mark Madsen left this town in the middle of the night for more reason than we know.
Rumor was that Karen had aspirations of a goverment position,
I have a feeling there's way to much
bagage for any voter.
And a belated Merry Christmas to you, Karen! This might not be a gift to you, but it sure as hell is a great present to the rest of us!
With any luck, the Auditor will actually DO something. They don't have a very good track record.
I think I am going to call the anonymous hotline every day this week and tell them something is fishy with ALL the current city council members. Since you don't have to prove your allegations, just call, I can get the auditors office investigating everyone. I bet a lot of people will be surprised at what turns up and who forgot to disclose what. A lot of people are going to have to apologize for this one and some of the current elected are going to have a lot of explaining to do. When you point the finger at someone else, there are three fingers pointing right back at you.
Let's figure out where these "anonymous" allegations came from, shall we?
Who has it in for certain members of the former city council? Who endlessly and fruitlessly scoured every nook and cranny in order to dig up dirt on Exeltech, ACTI and the Gateway? Who alleged a variety of improprieties and so-called sweetheart deals were going on behind the council's closed doors? Who posted on this blog as "The Watcher" and talked trash and gossipped about current and former city council members and city department managers? Who pulled an end run around the mayor and city manager and wrote an inappropriate letter to the Department of Ecology?
Why none other than Max Mania, of course. Given Max's predilections towards posting trash under an alias, writing letters he has no business to write and his close connexions to Norma, Darlene and Diane who else can this anonymous tipster be?
Max Mania.
Thanks, Max for taking your position on the city council to yet another new low. It's clear that we have a shadow city council in the form of Norma, Darlene, Diane and a host of unelected carpetbagging special interest groups from Seattle. Using Mania, these unelected morons can play their little games and waste taxpayer's money and valuable city and state time with these unfounded allegations.
The thing I know for sure was she really threw PA under the bus to get that Gateway built.
"I think I am going to call the anonymous hotline every day this week and tell them something is fishy with ALL the current city council members."
"... When you point the finger at someone else,there are three fingers pointing right back at you."
Except you, of course!
You sound VERY vindictive with these comments. The allegations hitting too close to home?
You might want to spend a few minutes reading the article. It makes reference to specific people, specific projects, public officials, and specific companies.
I would think most people would WANT concerns about apparent conflicts of interest, and possible improper activities investigated. If there is no basis, fine.
Are you suggesting that no public officials should ever be investigated for such concerns?
Or, only the ones you don't like?
Nice try, anonymous 1:26 PM. The only problem is, just because you've been elected to City Council (even in Port Angeles) doesn't mean you've done anything morally or legally wrong.
Even a quick glance at the activities of Karen Rogers/Karen Rogers Consulting would reveal enough to be "probable cause" for further investigation. I mean, her "consulting" business was/is all about making "connections" between businesses and (surprise!) local government. And (surprise!) some of her clients got BIG, BIG contracts with the city. Contracts she voted for, rather than recusing herself.
So, how many fingers were pointing back at her when she was ransacking the city coffers?
"... when (Karen) was ransacking the city coffers?"
Uh huh. Here we go again! More baseless, unfounded accusations of "corruption" against the usual suspects that the squawk-a-doodle leftists hate, hate, hate.
This isn't Chicago, Los Angeles or New York. No one could pull this so-called "corruption" off in a town this small without a lot of people getting wise to it and in a big hurry.
But hey, why spoil the fun? This blog thrives on finger pointing, smear tactics, hate campaigns and vicious inuendo (and that's summing up Mania's posts as "The Watcher"). Don't let tawdry things like "facts" get in the way of your hate!
Have any of you squawk-a-doodle nutjobs got a shred of proof?
Mania and his friends are behind this. Wouldn't it be funny if it came to light that Max has some skeletons in his closet?
Careful about dragging ACTI through the mud, they could be gone before the ground is even broken.
I hope someone reports the auditor's office findings and apology's are issued after nothing is found.
Good! I always thought there was something fishy going on with Roger-Madsen-Incubator-Exceltech. It will be nice to have an independent investigator take a look at it. Maybe it's all legit, but there's ZERO transparancy here. And heaven forbid there be any watchdog group taking an objective look at the city council. Not the PDN, nor the "stop wasting taxpayer money!" local Republicans. At least the auditor will shed some light on this, one way or the other. Although, if there's nothing going on, why is Rogers so opposed to this? Hmmm?
"Mania and his friends are behind this."
Ah, yes, Edna is back to hijack the discussions to carry on her smear campaign against Max Mania.
When will you ever accept the reality that the public did not vote for you, Edna?
All the "proof" you offer to try to tie Max to posts on this blog are all your fabrications. How can anyone believe anything you post, when you repeatedly come here using different user names?
For all we know, given your extensive track record of using different user names, you are "The Watcher".
How far WILL you go to smear Max Mania?
"Here we go again! More baseless, unfounded accusations of "corruption" against the usual suspects that the squawk-a-doodle leftists hate, hate, hate."
"Have any of you squawk-a-doodle nutjobs got a shred of proof?"
I'm really surprised that a self avowed "conservative" would be supporting the types of behaviors that have been reported. I'm surprised that such a "conservative" would support activities of DEMOCRATS funneling taxpayer money to private businesses, and apparantly engaging in influence peddling.
Proof? It has been widely reported in the media, through the years.
And, I know the people behind the efforts to initiate the investigations, and they are by NO means "leftists". Far from it.
So many haters! I thought libs were supposed to be "peathful?"
this town is hurting (more than it should be in this economy) because "certain" people thought they were above the law, and could do whatever they wanted. We had a mayor who thought nepotism and inside deals were fine (more for MEEEE). We had a city manager who couldn't even manage a simple "form letter" when anyone wrote them about anything (seriously, never replied to anyone that I know of). We had a ram-rodded down our throats a bus transit center. We had an incubator who didn't give a damn about any business, except their hand picked (kick back? ones.
The city government in this town has been dirty for a long time. I hope this is so blatant that the auditor can't avoid pressing charges.
Thanks for the laugh this morning. The "proof" is that is was reported in our local paper??!! Gosh, if I had a nickel for every time the PDN screwed something up I would be a rich man! The PDN does not report the truth - it has always twisted the facts. If that is where you are getting your information from and your proof from, you really are in the dark about the facts.
I am all for this investigation. I think it is a waste of money because nothing will come out of it, but at least I can hope these issues will finally be put to rest.
And where in the article does it say Karen is opposed to this? Someone needs to reread it. She only stated that it was a waste of money and offered to meet with anyone to address their concerns. Sounds like she does not mind having anyone look into it to me.
I said it once and I will keep saying it - where is the proof? Someone needs to get the facts straight. NONE of her clients got contracts with the city. The companies mentioned were not her clients when she served. Check the facts - even the paper got this wrong.
Why is it so easy to smear someone's good name without checking out the facts and showing the proof?
Why, all you people are hateful! So spiteful! But you don't know it all.
On Christmas morning I woke up early because I heard some noise in my kitchen. I got up and went in and there was Karen Rogers. She'd made pancakes for my entire family - just because she cares. She even brought us real maple syrup! Then, after doing the dishes and vacuuming, she left. (She said she had to go give blood for some orphans, if I remember correctly.)
She's a decent, hard working, kind, kind lady, and anyone who tries to paint her as a greedy, grubby, sleazy, bullying, selfish and nasty person is just wrong!
Or maybe all you haters hate pancakes too?
Q: Why are there vampires in Forks?
A: Too much competition for blood-sucking in Port Angeles.
I have it on good accord that the investigation is already over and no, i repeat no, improprieties were found.
We'll see if the PDN reports that.
losers
Anon 9:40, i heard the same thing, NO WRONG DOING, the PDN is reckless and adds NO value.
Anyone who believes what they read in that periodical is stupid.
It is sad to see the folks that are defending what former mayor Karen Rogers did, while she was both the Mayor of this city, and operating Karen Rogers Consulting.
Maybe it was technically not "illegal" (I'm not a lawyer), but it REALLY gives an appearance of wrongdoing. It REALLY looks like "influence peddling". Google that, and see how that is viewed by the outside world.
It seems that there are some here that are just blinded by their partisanship, and cannot rise above to look for what is GOOD for the community, as a whole.
What Karen Rogers did/does LOOKS sleazy and corrupt to most folks that are "independant". It casts a bad view of what is done in Port Angeles.
Her supporters cannot see that. They cannot step back from their friendship, and tell their friend Karen that she is engaging in behaviors that are doing harm to the community as a whole.
And, obviously, Karen doesn't seem to care enough to act in a better way.
Again, look up "influence peddling".
Ha ha ha!
This is yet another smear campaign by Max and his vengeful cronies. No proof, no wrong-doing - but who cares when you can sling mud all over the place?
Hey, Max! Maybe you'd like to clean about how you lost your "grocery clerk" job?
"I have it on good accord that the investigation is already over and no, i repeat no, improprieties were found."
Right. The Auditor's Office just got a ton of documents a couple of weeks ago, and it's been Christmas to boot. But, despite the large number of documents to read, the short time frame, and the major holiday, yes, right, the investigation is over. Sure.
File under WISHFUL THINKING.
Anon 1:22
You'll see, I'm right you're wrong
"City Manager Kent Myers said he has "no idea what the basis of it is. I think that our records are in order.".."
Yep, I'll agree. The City Manager has NO idea. That is one of the reasons this city continues to stagnate.
And, looking at the comments here that think there is no problem with what the former mayor did is another example of why this town is drying up. Why people are moving away. Why businesses are closing.
It is right up there with the teen mom throwing her newborn in the trash, and the guy branding his kids.
Maybe illegal, maybe not. But definately not the kind of community I want to raise MY children in.
"So many haters! I thought libs were supposed to be "peathful?""
Suspicion of government, a demand for transparency and support for a system of checks and balances does not equal hatred. Nor is it confined to the "liberalth". Or, at least, it didn't use to be.
Hmmm...No posts since 2:17PM. Tom, you're usually more on top of getting things posted, especially with a topic of interest like this one. So I have to wonder...Has a certain someone at the center of this story been threatening to sue you again, Tom?
It's over liberals...now go crawl back in your caves and live your shitty minimalist lives....
It is over
No findings to report
HA
I hope the state publishes the complaintants name(s) so Karen Rogers, the city, and all the private companies can sue the shit out of them.
HAHA
"Red Man said...
It's over liberals...now go crawl back in your caves and live your shitty minimalist lives...."
This is so funny.
I guess you consider U2s "Bono" to be "minimalist", living in a cave? How about Ted Turner? How about the guy that founded Virgin Airlines, music, etc?
Each of those guys do more in a minute to help people that you angry old whiners do in your entire lives. If it is about money, these guys make more in a year than the entire GDP of some countries.
And you?
Get a clue!
Ha ha ha ha!
Tom's gona get it!
OFFICIAL FINDINGS:
We, the undersigned, do hereby attest that these are our Official Findings in the matter of Case #114-C-2010 (Port Angeles/Rogers/Madsen):
Fact 1) There was no wrongdoing by the City of Port Angeles.
Fact 2) There was no wrongdoing by former mayor Karen Rogers.
Fact 3) In fact, not only was there no wrong done by former mayor Karen Rogers, but now, knowing her a little bit, we are shocked and appalled that anyone, anywhere could ever even suggest such a thing.
Fact 4) The fact that former mayor Karen Rogers ran a consulting business that represented clients who wound up getting contracts with the City of Port Angeles falls under the heading of "happy accidents."
Fact 5) If anything, former mayor Karen Rogers is to be admired for running a successful (private) business during a period in which so many governmental bodies, including the City of Port Angeles, found themselves struggling financially.
Fact 6) In fact, if we are to judge at all from the generosity we have personally seen Karen Rogers exhibit, she must have done very, very well indeed, and would surely never, ever do anything at all illegal, immoral and/or underhanded.
In the deciding of these facts, we have taken pains to weigh all the facts and both sides of the issues equally. We did not let the fact that there were dozens of people willing to testify against the City or Karen Rogers sway us. Nor did we let the two people who spoke out to defend former mayor Karen Rogers unduly influence us. We simply looked at the facts. And, after evaluating those facts, and receiving a very nice (and generous) Christmas card from Karen Rogers, we reached a decision.
Case dismissed. LET FREEDOM RING THROUGHOUT THE LAND. Should anyone have any questions regarding this decision, please note that we will be in Hawaii for the next two weeks.
Yours very truly,
The State Auditor's Office
Olympia, WA
Hey 'Auditors Office'. Your "official findings" are crap. They have not issues ANY reports for anything related to the city, Karen or Marky in December, let alone 2010.
So stop trying to spread mis-information.
I am still confused. Everyone talks about proof and facts, but I have yet to see anyone post either. If you are in the "know" please post a "for instance" for me of wrong doing. All these generalities don't help much. Give me an example - just one - of where you think something was done wrong. I need a specific example or all of this conversation is pretty useless.
Not sure why some here seem to be blaming Max. If I'm not mistaken there was a gentlemen that frequented the City Meetings and he was always after Karen. If I were pointing fingers he would be the one.
If she has so many supporters why was it she lost her mayor post the 2nd time around. There were a number of folks standing up for her at that open meeting and she didn't make it.
And if looks could kill and I'm sure many of you have seen the look you can get from her, there sure would be alot of dead folks around.
"Hey 'Auditors Office'. Your "official findings" are crap. They have not issues ANY reports for anything related to the city, Karen or Marky in December, let alone 2010.
So stop trying to spread mis-information."
I see things like "humor", "sarcasm" and "parody" are difficult concepts in Port Angeles.
Just go back to cutting down the forests and killing everything you can. I know it is so much less complicated.
I'm not seeing the problem with the auditors office "looking into" anything that is done at our local government level. It's not as open and transparent as it should be.
Decisions are made that impact all of us (check your real estate taxes, your power bills, and every other way the city/county/state take taxes from us). The "powers that be" need reminding that they are public servants, and lining their - or their friends and relatives - is illegal, and should be.
I don't care how NICE people are, if they do wrong, they should face the music.
It is not Max, or Edna or lib or conservative, or any other bullsh*t thing. Grow up, use your brains. This is about acting in the best interests of ALL OF US. It's about acting properly. We, as a people, need to give this message to the city, the county, the state, and the federal governance of this country -- or suffer with the consequences,that we are all feeling/seeing/living.
The people who have the proof and facts are likely sharing them with the authorities, where knowledge of the truth might lead to corrective actions.
However, I have no faith that the State Auditor's Office will conclude there was sufficient wrongdoing to merit more than perhaps a verbal slap on the wrist. The State Auditor is an elected official, and elected officials have a tendency to cover each others' backs.
It is up to the voters to remember past deeds and decide upon which candidates for public office can best represent the public interest. Even KR's cronies cannot outnumber the ordinary people with long memories of the ways that she, Madsen, and their bullying buddies conducted the publics' business.
Prediction: KR has deservedly met her political demise.
Oh c'mon! We don't need any proff! We all knowthat Karen and Larry are corrupt money laundering grafters and that Edna pulls the wings off of flies when she isn't kicking that farmer's market out of downtown. We all know that Madsen has something to hide, that the staff at city hall are out to throttle any change, that the Port of P.A. is corrupt, that the Chamber of Commerce is corrupt, that Nippon and ACTI arecorrupt, that Kaj Ahlburg plans to implement the Patriot Act. Sheesh.
Prediction: KR has deservedly met her political demise.
The truth comes out! This was done because a few people think Karen is going to run for some office and they are smearing her name before hand? Stop wasting my tax payer money! Why would a successful business woman want to run again in this town?
You want to investigate something and smear names? Talk about the criminal background of a current city council member. Talk about the interfering in police business by a former council member. Talk about a current council member who did not recuse themselves on votes that benefited their family financially. If you are going to clean up city council do an investigation of ALL the members.
Uh, Larry...We're still waiting for that press release from the Auditor's Office announcing that the investigation is over. After all, according to those "in the know" here, it IS over, right? So where's that press release? Where's the good news for you and Karen?
See you in 2011...
"If you are going to clean up city council do an investigation of ALL the members."
You're just as able to call the Auditor's Office as anyone else, so...Start dialing.
give me a break KR is a small town big fish. Nothing more. Never will be,never could be. People in PA are just too stupid to see that she's all ego, no morals.
But, last time I looked that wasn't illegal. HOWEVER, if KR ever tried to run for an office outside of this po-dunk town, she'd be tar and feathered (as she should be). People would see what a self serving person she really is.
We just can't get the wool pulled off our eyes.
"I am still confused. Everyone talks about proof and facts, but I have yet to see anyone post either. If you are in the "know" please post a "for instance" for me of wrong doing."
First, look up "Influence Peddling". Then review what Karen Rogers Consulting did. Then look at her clients. Then look at the contracts with the city her clients obtained.
Remember she was both the Mayor, and council member while doing this.
I understand that the sheriff's deputies will soon be coming for a certain council member in regard to a long standing unpaid "debt".
The areas of information that the State is asking for do tell the whole story, and very clearly. They want the contracts for certain companies - companies that all have a Karen Rogers connection. If they're looking into her client companies, and the contracts those companies got with the city, doesn't that seem clear? At best, much of what she did was improper or showed poor judgement. At worst, it was out and out selling of influence and access - with the city footing the bill and Rogers reaping the profits.
All the State is trying to do is find out where on that range of wrongdoing she falls. Anyone who doesn't support this effort to help clear this taint up is probably part of the problem. We need honest government. To get that, there has to be oversight of some sort.
as i said, earlier, the investigation is over, it took place on-site in PA. no findings of wrong doing.
But, what council member has been ignoring there duty to pay it's bill.
any guesses?
"I understand that the sheriff's deputies will soon be coming for a certain council member in regard to a long standing unpaid "debt".
6:44 AM, December 30, 2010"
Yeah, and I understand that the world is going to "end" next year.
"But, what council member has been ignoring there duty to pay it's bill.
any guesses?"
What former council member has it out for a current council member that they lost a recent election to?
Any guesses?
Which city council member has a drinking problem? Which city council member was once on a chaingang in Georgia? Which city council member is a cousin to Adolf Hitler? Which city council member has a shoe fetish?
The truth ... we must know the truth!
"But, what council member has been ignoring there duty to pay it's bill."
Oh.
My.
God.
i love this, grammer nazi, liberal losers, capitalist lovers. what's it all mean? you are all idiots.
idiots
idiots
idiots
Karen Rogers is nothing more than a business woman and i applaud her efforts.
"Karen Rogers is nothing more than a business woman and i applaud her efforts."
Karen Rogers was not just a "business woman". She was Mayor, and the representative of ALL of Port Angeles as she attended functions in Olympia and elsewhere. Her blatant influence peddling, while in office, was an embarassment to many.
Public representatives, like athletes, are often role models for our children. More than athletes, they are ELECTED by citizens with the expectation they will do good things for their community.
Karen Rogers may have done good things for Port Angeles. Convicted criminals often did some good things in their lives, too, but those things are hardly remembered, and the crimes are what they are remembered for.
So if you were a council member or Mayor and AFTER you left office and went to work for or did consulting for a company that did business with the city while you were elected this is not okay? Retired military people go to work for military contractors all the time AFTER they leave the military. If KR did business with these people while she was in office I could see a problem. But all the companies mentioned in the paper and in this blogs are companies she may or may not have done business with AFTER she left office.
So because someone didn't do their homework and actually look at the dates these companies did business with the city versus when they did business with KR consulting we are spending thousands of dollars?
I guess politicians are not the only ones who waste my money.
Influence peddling & moving public money into private hands equates to being a successful business woman in Port Angeles.
being mayor pays nothing, do you think this dirt water town is worth giving up your career to be its Mayor.
You are all sadly mistaken.
"If KR did business with these people while she was in office I could see a problem. "
She ran "Karen Rogers Consulting", and had those businesses as clients, while holding public office. For years.
This is a matter of record.
"Influence peddling & moving public money into private hands equates to being a successful business woman in Port Angeles."
Especially when you're holding public office.
Funny how that knee-jerk "conservative" "Sally/Trish/Larry/Edna" seems to try to defend these practices. Can you imagine how they would HOWL if it were a ... "LIBERAL"?
"being mayor pays nothing, do you think this dirt water town is worth giving up your career to be its Mayor.
You are all sadly mistaken."
No, we are not sadly mistaken. It is not wrong to expect our public representatives to do their best FOR the community. To represent us with honor.
Not to DISHONOR our community.
If you want to be successful in your career, and that means making lots of money, then find a career that accomplishes that for you. But it is not okay to bring dishonor to your community just so you can makes lots of money.
Those that think otherwise are sadly mistaken.
anon 12:13
Dishonor Port Angeles? You have got to be kinding, right?
You simply have a problem with Karen, like several do.
But it is you and your cronies that dishonor Port Angeles with your baseless accusations.
"You simply have a problem with Karen, like several do."
So long as we all agree that "several" in this context means "most people."
Think I remember her wanting the Mayorship for a second term and the voters of this town said NO!!!!! And she was SHOCKED with all of her supporters at the City Hall Meeting.
"several people" does not mean most in my book.
Yes, she did run her business while in office and the record proves they were NOT her clients. The audit will prove this as well. You are listening to others and don't know the facts. I am so looking forward to the truth coming out. However, even when it does, I doubt any of you pointing fingers will apologize. That is the sad part in all of this. It is easy to trash someone's reputation but not so easy to stand up and say you were wrong.
"But it is you and your cronies that dishonor Port Angeles with your baseless accusations.
10:08 AM, January 01, 2011"
I know that you somehow think you are clever or something with your continuing posts insulting people here, and never saying anything of substance. Just posting to be negative, every time.
But every time, over the years, I've brought up the fact that our mayor was also running a consulting business that offered a "bridge" between local government and people wanting to do business with the city, they have expressed shock. Without exception, every one of them has said "Is that legal?"
When I've replied "I guess so", they have just shaken their heads, saying "What kind of town do you live in?".
More recently, when I tell friends from other places that the former mayor was hired by the company that gets the big city construction contracts, the same one that was getting the contracts while she was mayor, they can't believe it.
So, maybe what Karen Rogers did/does is legal. I don't know. But I do know every person I've seen become aware of what Karen Rogers did, is appalled.
Maybe this is the kind of reputation Port Angeles residents WANT for their community.
Why should we be surprised when the newspaper headlines stories of vandalism , drug abuse and crime, when the community seems to support sleazy activities by its' "leadership"?
"Yes, she did run her business while in office and the record proves they were NOT her clients."
Hmmm, interesting comment. So, you have seen all of Karen Rogers' business dealings? Or are you saying you have copies of all the documents the State Auditor received as part of this investigation?
Just to say it, I know, without a shred of doubt, that your statement is incorrect. I have seen copies of some of those documents.
"I have seen copies of some of those documents."
Then you can't read. The company who built the bridges was – Parsons RCI, Inc. – they have never been a client of KR. The company who built the Gateway – Primo Construction – have never been a client of KR. All these contracts were awarded via after a PUBLIC REQUEST FOR BIDS an open transparent process and many firms responded to the bid requests – the contracts were awarded in open public session at the City Council meeting with full bid price disclosed.
There is a difference in building "a" bridge versus "the" bridge. I wish all local officials worked harder with private business to send contracts our way.
As a businessman and contractor, I should be able to call a public official and say - "I see you have an open bid for so and so. Can you give me some information?" - Information as in how the process works, what steps I should take, etc. Part of their job should be to help the local economy.
If I worked with a public official in the past who is no longer a public official now and they impressed me with their work ethic, I would darn sure hire them for my company. Why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't I want their expertise in bidding on other contracts in the state? They are no longer in office and have to make a living just like anyone else. You people are just weird.
Karen Rogers' unsavory behavior when on the council was aided by a number of people who still work for the city. Unfortunately the new City Manager has been a disappointment, in that he has not cleaned house of the entrenched old guard. So, the taxpayers continue to be fleeced.
"The company who built the bridges was – Parsons RCI, Inc. – they have never been a client of KR. The company who built the Gateway – Primo Construction – have never been a client of KR. All these contracts were awarded via after a PUBLIC REQUEST FOR BIDS an open transparent process and many firms responded to the bid requests – "
With this type of information, you must be a city council person. You must be.. Max Mania.
Exeltech received millions of dollars in public money to do construction supervision on the Gateway, the bridges, street paving, and numerous other public works projects.
The cost overruns on the Gateway included expenses for fixing construction defects that the "supervisors" didn't catch and prevent. This didn't stop the city from paying the supervisors extra to consult upon and supervise the repairs. What a deal!
Could the person who posted details about which firms constructed the projects (as opposed to which firm received the construction supervision contracts for them) also have aspirations for Exeltech employment soon, do ya think?
The current city manager is not a progressive. He will not take the necessary measures to rid our nice city hall of the corrupt, entrenched Staff and old guard who are working with certain former city council members against Max. The city manager is quietly encouraging people like Cody Blevins and Kaj Ahlburg to run for city council in November.
Sounds like Larry talking here and not Max.
Breaking News
State Auditor's office finds no wrong doing
You heard it hear first
Kaj Ahlburg doesn't live inside city limits, so he can't run for city council. Sorry.
Breaking Wind
State Auditor's finds moon is made of stinky cheese
You herd it hear first - no matter how it's smelled, er, spelled
"Breaking News
State Auditor's office finds no wrong doing
You heard it hear first"
Maybe, but it doesn't change the "appearance of sleaze" at all.
Do you suppose the Auditor's Office would post on the Internet all the materials they reviewed as part of their investigation? Then the public could judge for themselves....
you idiots will never give up. When the state findings are released you will all still cry... oh Rogers was so bad...... boo hoo.
well, crawl back under the rocks you live under, and get over it.
I'm laughing all the way to the bank.
"I'm laughing all the way to the bank"
You must have gotten in on her investment group, the one that was going after all of the foreclosers in the area?
"The current city manager is not a progressive..."
THANK GOD!
"well, crawl back under the rocks you live under, and get over it."
You really think that by being unpleasant ALL the time, people are going to change their minds and see things your way??
You really think you can stop change by blindly insulting people you've never met, and you know nothing about?
What kind of parents did YOU have??
anon 11:37
Oh poor you, you can dish it out but you can't take it. boo hoo
And no i don't think being unpleasent will change your mind, you will never admit you are wrong anyway,you must be a women.
by the way, my parents are dead
There sure are some mentally disturbed people who post to this blog.
Scary.
welcome to Port Angeles
admit when your wrong, take a real man to do that.
Come on it's okay, we'll all still be here to make fun of you.
Hi there...STILL waiting for that big ol' press release announcing that the investigation is over.
Anyone?
Anyone?
Karen - are you there?
"Hi there...STILL waiting for that big ol' press release announcing that the investigation is over."
You saw the City Manager is looking for another job, FAR away. Does that count?
"Karen - are you there?"
Has any body looked to see how many of the original crew that caused all these problems are still around? Have they all left town?
Mark Madsen is gone. Larry Williams is gone. Dick Piling has fallen on hard times and had to sell his business. And Glenn Cutler is still here - the last big rat on the sinking ship SS Karen Rogers.
Larry Williams is gone?!? Where to??? Hadn't heard this good news.
Larry apparently got remarried, and got going somewhere south of here. Pity the new bride, pity the new town...But don't it feel good for us!
"Pity the new bride..."
EWWWW! Now THAT is just an evil mental image.
Yes, pity the place he moved to. What a mean spirited person.
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