NOAA Decision Still on Appeal
The Government Accountability Office has upheld the appeal of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's decision to move their fleet to Newport, OR. The appeal had been filed by the Port of Bellingham, which had bid (along with the Port of Port Angeles) for the fleet.
The Government Accountability Office didn't overturn the NOAA decision. They're only asking the NOAA to reassess their decision because the Newport location is at odds with the NOAA's own requirements. The Newport site is questionable because it's within the 100-year floodplain at the mouth of the Yaquina River.
Senator Maria Cantwell had been pushing to have the NOAA's decision overturned.
The Government Accountability Office didn't overturn the NOAA decision. They're only asking the NOAA to reassess their decision because the Newport location is at odds with the NOAA's own requirements. The Newport site is questionable because it's within the 100-year floodplain at the mouth of the Yaquina River.
Senator Maria Cantwell had been pushing to have the NOAA's decision overturned.
Labels: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA, Port of Bellingham, Port of Port Angeles
posted by Tom Harper at 7:02 PM
19 Comments:
Meanwhile, Climategate is BIG news...the lamestream media wouldn't cover it but Jon Stewart did: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,578990,00.html
Bwaaaaa...the earth has actually been COOLING for awhile now!
Hum, off the cuff, it makes sense to me for them to be on an actual coast instead of having to burn up fuel to go to a more inland base.
Lets see, twenty year lease on a hundred year flood plain, so when was the last flood? Ha ha ha ha
And why do states compete so much for all of this, aren't we all one?
Well, maybe not, but they still need to eat in Oregon also so I don't have any problem with them going there.
"Sally said...
Meanwhile, Climategate is BIG news...the lamestream media wouldn't cover it but Jon Stewart did: http://www.foxnews.com "
I wonder when folks like Sally will get tired of being manipulated by Rupert Murdock and his agenda on Fox? Maybe never.
Of course Fox would make a story like that "big news", and blow it all out of proportions. One group of climate scientists/researchers out the many thousands around the world get busted for seemingly manipulating information, and the entire issue is then seen to be in question.
This is like saying that since a number of priests have been busted for having sex with little boys, Christianity has no validity!
Sally probably remembers the recent Jon Stewart piece showing how Fox "news" was using footage from a well attended protest demonstration in place of footage of the ACTUAL attendence of the demonstration they were "reporting" on. Using Sally's logic, anything Fox "news" says must be manipulated information designed to deceive the people, and therefore worthless.
"Sally said...
Meanwhile, Climategate is BIG news...the lamestream media wouldn't cover it."
Gee.. The PDN covered it. Doesn't THAT count? LOL!
There's a headline on today's PDN: "NOAA told to reconsider moving fleet to Oregon; will Port Angeles port get another chance?"
I just laughed.
Of course, like any good media story, the article doesn't answer its own question. "We really don't know what's going to happen," says everyone. "It's just too early to tell." "Port Angeles? What's that? This issue is between Bellingham, Newport and NOAA, not Port Angeles." But let's get everyone riled up about it anyways!! OMGPANIC!!
Things started going downhill here when they closed the whorehouse, just saying is all.
Fox News, rolls eyes.
A question:
If the christians were so damn ashamed of their daughters working in a whorehouse why do they still provide tours of it?
Ten points if you give me the correct answer.
"BBC said...
A question:
If the christians were so damn ashamed of their daughters working in a whorehouse why do they still provide tours of it?
Ten points if you give me the correct answer."
"She said I'm sorry baby I'm leaving you tonight
I found someone new he's waitin' in the car outside
Ah honey how could you do it
We swore each other everlasting love
She said well yeah I know but when
We did - there was one thing we weren't
Really thinking of and that's money -
Money changes everything
Money, money changes everything
We think we know what we're doin'
That don't mean a thing
It's all in the past now
Money changes everything
They shake your hand and they smile
And they buy you a drink
They say we'll be your friends
We'll stick with you till the end
Ah but everybody's only
Looking out for themselves
And you say well who can you trust
I'll tell you it's just
Nobody else's money -
Money changes everything
Money changes everything
We think we know what we're doin
We don't pull the strings
It's all in the past now
Money changes everything
Money changes everything
Money changes everything
We think we know what we're doing
We don't know a thing
It's all in the past now
Money changes everything "
Cyndi Lauper knew the answer to THAT one!
"Of course, like any good media story, the article doesn't answer its own question. "We really don't know what's going to happen," says everyone. "It's just too early to tell." "Port Angeles? What's that? This issue is between Bellingham, Newport and NOAA, not Port Angeles." But let's get everyone riled up about it anyways!! OMGPANIC!!"
Well said!
On a slightly different but related topic: Walmart proceeding with it's "SuperStore" across from it's current store.
Think about it. Port Angeles creates "HarborWorks" to develop the former Rayonier mill site with retail/commercial businesses, and in a historically bad economic climate, Walmart decides to proceed with plans to build a "SuperStore" in the area. The construction equipment and trailers are on site, now.
When that store comes on line, it will suck up the majority of retail market/sales in the area, making the vacant Rayonier property even less viable than it already is.
I know Kent Myers and Jeff Lincoln have their wet dreams about that Ferrari dealership (or was that Rolls Royce?) locating on the Rayonier site, catering to the wealthy in Port Angeles, but I think Walmart is trumping their hand.
Port Angeles is really more of a Walmart kind of town, don't ya know.
You can measure the intelligence of a community by how they let Walmart trample all over them. Building a new building, leaving an eyesore vacant one....what are the city powers-that-be thinking?!!
I refuse to step foot in a Walmart. They've a terrible track record for wholesale destroying jobs and businesses in town. The joke of it is ...their "lower prices" mantra costs all of us dearly..it's no deal.
Please note: The current Wal-Mart store, and the future Wal-Mart store are both OUTSIDE the city limits. I encourage everyone to refuse to shop at Wal-Mart in any location. They are the retail equivalent of cancer.
I have never so much as set foot inside a Wal-Mart. They are evil.
The answer to my question of course, is, money. The old whorehouse is another tourist attraction.
But it would attract more money if it was still operating, it would save the guys here ferry fees and such to Victoria.
Oh just get over Walmart, they employ people that live here and depend on the jobs, some of them are my friends, and I shop there as much as anywhere else. But they don't have everything you know, or always the best prices, it's just another place to shop.
So They'll leave a store empty, the old K-Mart has been mostly unused for years also.
I don't understand why they're going to build a super store here though, optimism I guess. Whatever, it's always interesting to camp in a Walmart parking lot for a night or two for free.
"Port Angeles? What's that? This issue is between Bellingham, Newport and NOAA, not Port Angeles."
But Port Angeles is going to have a WalMart Super Store! Isn't that going to make it a contender?
Another change in topic, but related to a thread a few weeks ago about Angeles Composites hiring new folks. One of the companies the story made reference to was Bombardier.
28 Nov 2009 ... MONTREAL — Bombardier Aerospace (TSX:BBD.B) says a lack of new orders will forced it to lay off an additional 715 workers.
www.amherstdaily.com/index.cfm?sid=306431&sc=498
Hmmm. Maybe that is why Rauch was so non committal in that article. Being in the biz, he probably had a clue.
I didn't go to the "Sea Change" movie showing last night, but am interested in what Sally has to say about the following article from the PDN (besides the expected name calling and fingerpointing):
"Measurements of ocean acidification off the North Olympic Peninsula coast at Tatoosh Island show acidity is rising more than 10 times faster than climate models have predicted.
The researchers cannot say whether the trend is widespread.
The eight years of research also revealed that the corrosive effect of acidic ocean waters could trigger a dramatic shift in coastal species and jeopardize some shellfish stocks.
“The increase in acidity we saw during our study was about the same magnitude as we expect over the course of the next century,” said study co-author Timothy Wootton, a marine biologist from the University of Chicago.
While the waters off the Peninsula may be a unique environment, “this raises a warning flag that the oceans may be changing faster than people think,” he said.
Wootton warned that an acidity-driven shift in coastal ecosystems could spell disaster for shellfish industries that rely on mussels and other similar species.
His team’s findings were published last week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Increased carbon dioxide emissions from human activities and the burning of fossil fuels have led to a 30 percent rise in ocean acidity in the past 200 years.
…
Penisula Daily News, 30 November 2008.
I'm pretty sure ocean acidity is rising all over the place. Can't remember where I saw that, but the Peninsula isn't a "unique environment".
It's also, I'm sure, nothing more than a hoax perpetuated by the Liberal Media and the Evil Consortium of Scientists as part of a master plan to destroy the United States and establish an econazi, anti-christian One World Government. Or something.
I was talking with a FoxWatcher a couple days ago who was going on about this "Climategate" thing. They were parroting the phrases right from the shows, with phrases like "Carbon Dioxide is a neccessary element, don't these idiots understand that?" and, " This is all about Al Gore and his plans to undermine the US."
Although I did bother to point out that the issues with CO2 is that we are unleashing millions of years of the stored CO2 by burning fossil fuels within a very short period of time, and that Al Gore IS part of the US "establishment", moreso than most all the FoxWatchers in Clallam (if not all), I did make one point that seemed to sink in.
" Why is it a bad thing to try to waste less fuel?"
Sally says "Bwaaaaa...the earth has actually been COOLING for awhile now!" Even if true, so what? As a conservative, I'll assume Sally does not support "waste", and wants to aggressively "trim the fat".
Individual, companies, corporations and governments all over the planet are working hard to find ways to reduce their energy consumption. (Not EVERYONE is doing this, but that is a dominant, growing effort). I've researched this.
The FoxWatchers argue it will "hurt the economy". Of course, the reality is that NOT facing the realities of the consequences of our actions is ALREADY costing us plenty, and will cost us even more with each passing year. But, the conversion to solar energy isn't going to happen by itself. Siemens is a huge multinational corporation, and a major manufacturer of photovoltaic panels. So is Arco/BP.
I came away from my conversation with that FoxWatcher thinking to myself " No wonder they are so angry all the time. By parroting rhetoric, name calling and accusatory finger pointing, they drive away most anyone they interact with, and then blame everyone else for their unhappiness. What a shame"
But, Fox makes money, so, perhaps that is all that matters.
""I came away from my conversation with that FoxWatcher thinking to myself " No wonder they are so angry all the time. By parroting rhetoric, name calling and accusatory finger pointing,""
By calling someone a "foxwatcher" what were YOU DOING? I see that both sides finger point with equal ability.
Maybe there is somewhere in the middle.....not climate gate, not al gore-isms? Maybe Al Gore has found a way to make billions by promoting/positioning, and maybe those on the other side are simply noticing what looks like a huge scam being promoted (much like the H1N1 PANDEMIC flu that appears to have an absolutely LOW kill rate, when even compared to other seasonal flu's). Perhaps what some are noticing is the apparent bias on all sides, and the lack of honesty, integrity and trust we have in our leaders, those in the news, and those who promote left v.s. right AND finger pointing....
"Perhaps what some are noticing is the apparent bias on all sides, and the lack of honesty, integrity and trust we have in our leaders, those in the news, and those who promote left v.s. right AND finger pointing...."
I totally agree with you, IF the folks are espousing views they have come to after looking into the situation, as opposed to the parroting of rhetoric. What I'm commenting on are the folks I've talked to who watch Fox as their only source of information. I will be equally critical of folks who only get their information from Alternet.
I'm interested in what YOU think, not the paid party line...
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