John Brewer to Speak at PABA meeting
PDN Editor and Publisher John Brewer will be the guest speaker at this Tuesday's meeting of the Port Angeles Business Association. He'll be discussing the newspaper's recent change of ownership.
posted by Tom Harper at 2:52 PM
26 Comments:
That's a meeting I can miss.
Like, there will be anything we actually care to hear about?
Who will start a bet-spread on him saying anything worth hearing?
Maybe John will talk about how great things will be this next year in Port Angeles.
We all heard how the US Post Office is on the verge of bankruptcy, and that it is making $3 billion worth of cuts this coming year... to address a projected $10 billion deficit.
Good times ahead, for sure!
I've been noticing the sharp deline in letters to the editor printed ever since the new owners took over. And now, in today's paper, there are NO letters to the editor at all. Put this together with the new Facebook commenting requirements, and it's pretty clear that the PDN is very much trying to shut down the public's ability to comment on issues of importance.
But gosh! Now there are more color photos!
As for Anon. 11:15 PM, December 04, 2011: Gimme a break. Yes, I know we do get mail here in Port Angeles, but really...Trying to tie the fate of the U.S. Postal system to how well things are (or aren't) going here in Port Angeles? At best, that's a huge stretch.
And as others have suggested: If it's SO terrible being here, why don't you move elsewhere?
The postal service is broke because of a congressional mandate that it fund its retirement and medical costs 75 years in advance, a mandate that applies to no other government agency. Smells like an effort by the corporatists to pull up yet another false example of how "inefficient" goverment services are to justify outsourcing those services to their private industry, for-profit buddies (who are as likely to burn the mail as deliver it).
The real affect will be to hurt us, you and me the user of the post office. I'd hope they would just jack up the rates on junk mail instead of providing yet another subsidy to business (corporate welfare rears its ugly head yet again).
By ignorantly parroting the "postal service is broke" propoganda, you've just become complicit in the scheme to privatize the country for the benefit of a few and the detriment of the many.
Thanks for nothing.
at anon 7:41 AM, December 05, 2011
well the agenda for letters, and comments online, is to convince the citizenry to fall into goose-step thought obedience.
Apparently, many of us fail - still using our own logic & reason - so they shut it down and sell it. Brewer's just another paid Tool to try again at turning people to sheeple. PDN failure is a good thing for freedom to think.
"Gimme a break. Yes, I know we do get mail here in Port Angeles, but really...Trying to tie the fate of the U.S. Postal system to how well things are (or aren't) going here in Port Angeles? At best, that's a huge stretch."
Yes, clearly Port Angeles is isolated from any of the country's problems. We don't pay Federal taxes, and nobody in the area actually works for the Post Office, so, nobody will be affected by the proposed huge cuts.
Nothing matters except that I can turn on TV, and watch Entertainment Tonight. I only care about the Kardashian girls, and what they did today.
I seriously doubt that the PDN was sold because the previous online commenting or submitted letters to the editor were too damn insightful. Honestly, those things were not even part of the equation. Anyone thinking otherwise is just granting themselves too much credit.
@ 2:38 post -
?? ! the post office was off-topic to the original post, which 7:41 post seems to be addressing. FOCUS, 2:38, FOCUS
And on the off-topic of our complete lack of a zip line or gondola or anything... Go to YouTube and search for "Mieders Alpine Coaster (no brakes)" for something equally insane.
"By ignorantly parroting the "postal service is broke" propoganda, you've just become complicit in the scheme to privatize the country for the benefit of a few and the detriment of the many.
Thanks for nothing.
10:26 AM, December 05, 2011"
Hey! I was just sayin' what is on the radio, TV and other stuff. The media is all over this Post Office story. I'm not makin' it up, nor agreeing.. Just sayin'..
You saw they are going to fire 28,000 postal employees? That sure will help the recovery.
Hey Anon 2:30 PM, December 05, 2011...You forgot to respond to "And as others have suggested: If it's SO terrible being here, why don't you move elsewhere?"
I'd ask you to please answer the question, rather than just bitch, bitch, bitch about how we're all going to Hell in a handbasket. Yeah, things are tough all over, but you seem to think they're even worse here, so why not get going?
Well, comrade?
"I'd ask you to please answer the question, rather than just bitch, bitch, bitch about how we're all going to Hell in a handbasket. Yeah, things are tough all over, but you seem to think they're even worse here, so why not get going?
Well, comrade?"
Ah, yes. Back to the "Comrade" crap, are we?
I make reference to the story that lead all the major news services, and you see it all about "Love it, or Leave it".
Not that I think the news services are the purveyors of the ultimate truth. Clearly, they have their own agendas that are often too painfully clear.
Nor do I see commenting about national events and wondering what their impacts might be on our local community a rational cause to warrant the classic JBS "Love it or Leave it" responses.
Perhaps you haven't noticed, or are so cocooned in your little 1950's bombshelter so as not to be talking with locals. Houses are empty, and people HAVE moved away.
Why? In part because the past "leadership" couldn't think past their own personal gain, couldn't look ahead, and couldn't plan for a viable, sustainable future.
Like you, they just sneered at anyone who dared to question, and suggested they either shut up (STFU!), or move away.
You probably listen to the "news", and hear how the nation and other countries are developing "plans" to deal with the grave economic realities of today. We are left with the impression that once these governments develop a plan, everything will be okay.
Using the Post Office situation as an example, yes, they propose $3 billion worth of cuts now, and laying off 28,000 people, and cutting back on services to the public, now. But that doesn't address the (currently) $10 billion in cuts they have to address. Next year, there will be more, in addition. With a plan, more cuts, layoffs and shutdowns are inevitable.
My point? Will we ever learn to "look ahead", and plan accordingly?
Or, should we take your approach, and just tell people to move away if they don't like current circumstances.
If I could sell my house - which has declined in value by nearly half of what it was initially listed-for 3 years ago, I would be gone from Port Angeles. Some of us are economically trapped here and so are trying to make the best of it. That includes trying to elect people to the city council who might actually might give a damn about improving the residents' quality of life.
I'm realizing that there is a total disconect between the "haves" and the "have nots" in this town. The "haves" smugly view the world from their ivory towers, and cannot conceive of or are about the pain of their neighbors who are struggling. The "99-percent" are starting to get a clue about how disenfranchised they are; but most of the power is with the politically well-connected "haves" who possess the resources to get the best governance money can buy.
Guess what?
There is only one way out of the fu@%ed up mess the government has gotten us all into.
Spending cuts and higher taxes
Deal with it, get off your ass and help, we all have to pitch in.
Did you notice Tacoma is planning on laying off 50 police, and 45 firefighters because of budget cuts. The police chief is saying there will be an increase in the crime rate.
But, corporate profits are up, so, all is good.
Capitalist said: "There is only one way out of the fu@%ed up mess the government has gotten us all into."
Am I surprised a "Capitalist" is so quick to place the blame for our current economic disasters on the government? As if US multi-national corporations and the very policies of the capitalist system are not totally complicit?
"Funny" how it is always "private enterprise" that "knows how to run things efficiently", according to these types. It is always "government" that is the problem when it is convenient to say so.
But, who got us into this financial mess? Did the US government bail out government agencies, or cut services and jobs? Did the US government, actually, end up having to bail out "private enterprise" to keep the entire financial system from collapse?
Yeah, bail out all those great whiz-kids of "private enterprise" that screwed up so badly.
Remember Republican John McCain suspending his presidential campaign, before Obama was even elected, so McCain could spend his efforts helping to pass the financial bail-out bills? Priorities?
And, do we also remember the recent stories about GE, one of the countrys' largest corporations, spending tens of millions on lobbyists to get laws changed or enacted, resulting in the corporation paying no taxes on its' billions in profits.
But, yes. Obviously the problems we now face are the governments' fault. Each of us lowly residents in Port Angeles have to just "Deal with it, get off your ass and help, we all have to pitch in."
So GE can not only pay NO taxes, but end up with billions in tax credits.
Just the way "capitalists" like it.
i didn't see "capitalist say GE should not pay taxes. They should, and the reason they don't is "as you said" the governments fault. Just like the collapse of the housing market, the national debt, over regulating, jobs going overseas, and union thug tactics. the list goes on and on, every problem has a root cause and the government is usually it.
" the list goes on and on, every problem has a root cause and the government is usually it."
Oh, so the armies of corporate lobbyists, the many millions spent by these corporations specifically to stop, change or enact laws (such as GE did, successfully), and the long understood "revolving door" of corporate officers in and out of government regulatory agencies means nothing? Has no impact?
Yep! They do all those things because they know those activities have no impact.
Right.
That is why corporate profits are at record levels, and there are so many two income families out of foreclosed homes. Because " government is the problem".
I miss WTF?. Where is that old rip. And, hey, what's become of Randal C Page? I need some sunny good cheer.
anon 11:29
You miss the boat again, who are the lobbyists paying to get their way?
government representatives
You fail to understand, it was the government who pushed the banks to loan money to people who could not afford to borrow it, the american dream right?
if you ask yourself WHY, something happened over and over you will get to the root cause
example:
why do big corporations have lobbyist in DC?
to accomplish their goals
Why? because the people they need to accomplish their goals are there.
Why? The government has the ability to change or make law to help them meet their goals
why? because the lawmakers get something
why? because they are corrupt
Hence the root cause of the problem is corrupt government.
Pull your head out
why?
@ Anon 1:32
Your post is hard to believe. You really think it makes any sense?
It sounds so stupid.
I miss WTF?. Where is that old rip. And, hey, what's become of Randal C Page? I need some sunny good cheer.
Actually, I pop in all the time...It's just that the posts are so predictable and boring , what's the point in commenting? No really...
Every one the same as the last.
Tom puts up something (anything)
Billy posts some random silliness.
Two or three on topic comments
The thread is hijacked by paranoid, I hate Port Angeles whiner.
Somebody (anybody) challenges whiner's assertions.
Whiner goes berserk generating paragraphs of "you're so stupid" "AM i THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON?" etc. etc. etc.
Post is abandoned
Repeat on next post.
Port Angeles, Washington: This is YOUR forum. Tell us what YOU think. If you want to discuss something that's not related to one of the current posts, go ahead and leave your comment anywhere, at any one of the posts.
WTF?, looking at this thread, the only whiner I see seems to be you. The others are actually discussing stuff. You're just whining about others here.
Gramps, maybe you should tell us all how you want us to post. What topics are okay by you. What words we should use, and not use.
You know, tell us what to say.
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