Smoke From Asian Fires Affecting North Olympic Peninsula
If you're wondering why it's been so smoggy in the past day or two, this might be the reason.
The smoke from fires in Asia has been wafting across the Pacific and reaching as far as the Olympic Peninsula.
posted by Tom Harper at 1:39 AM
49 Comments:
Oh, please. This is obviously Mayor Kidd's fault, all these particulates.
Oh, no-no-no-no! We've been inhaling nano particulates! Save us! Save us! The air is full of Asian nano particulates!
Loving this weather, isn't global warming great?
"Loving this weather, isn't global warming great?"
Yes, over 40,000 new high temperature records set across the US since Jan. The last 12 months have set all time high temp records.
80% of BCs forests will be "red and dead" by next year because of climate change. Ocean acidification is now at a rate not seen in 300 million years, with a massive sea life die-off rate not seen in 56 million years.
Fish are dying by the millions in lakes and streams across the US these last weeks because of extreme temps.
Crops across the US are withering in the heat, as extreme drought spreads across the country.
Yeah, isn't global warming great?
We are truly a global village, when we are breathing dirty air from across the ocean (as well as dirty air emitted from foreign corporations located on our own shores). I'm not only sick from the dirty air, but also heartsick at the local ignoramuses who scoff at environmental degradation and the people who are trying to protect public resources --- like clean air and clean water.
Hey, it's okay, we don't deserve to be here anyway. If you think you're not part of the destruction it's because you're just stupid.
If you don't like cutting down trees find something else to wipe your ass with. LOL
If you're so sick of it, go move somewhere else!
80%? Really Sherlock?
All the wood burning contributes to global dimming, not global warming. Water sticks to the particulates created from burning wood, makes more rain, and cools the earth. It counteracts, somewhat, the really really nasty kind of pollution from cars, etc. which is warming the earth - or most of it - and creating climate change - or "fucking extreme weather". We know about this ironic effect, global dimming because those stupid government workers and farmers have been studying evaporation rates for nearly a century. It's confusing and would make blood come out of the ears of nearly everyone. It just can't be! If we stopped burning wood, and God killed all the forests and canceled the thunder and lighting, we'd be screwed - that is if we kept our pick ups.
Everywhere I go everyone is an expert on things, hahahaha
Being as everyone is an expert on things I have to wonder why the city pays big fees to consulting firms for advice.
Let me answer my question for you, cuz if things go to hell they don't have to take the blame, they was just following the advice of the experts.
Never mind that the experts are long gone with your money, your odds of getting things right would be about the same tossing darts at a dart board.
Anon 6:02PM said : " 80%? Really Sherlock?"
"•The pine beetle has infested 13 million hectares of B.C.'s forests. By 2013, it is predicted that 80% of BC's pine forest will be "red and dead"."
http://www.livesmartbc.ca/learn/effects.html
Yeah, really.
And, if you are following what has been going on around the world for the last year or 15, you will know that the last 15 years have been the warmest on record. The theory of "Global dimming" is really proving to be correct, right?
Beyond these self serving "theories" put out by the oil companies, are the facts. Not computer models or predictions, but what actually has happened.
For thousands of years before the "Industrial revolution", the atmospheric CO2 levels were around 278 ppm (parts per million). 100 years after the start of the "Industrial Revolution", the CO2 levels had risen by about 50 ppm, to 336 ppm in 1979. It took us only 30 years to raise the CO2 levels another 50 ppm, to 386 ppm by 2009.
3 years later, only a few months ago, CO2 levels reached 400 ppm.
Today, US government scientists are attributing the recent severe and extreme weather to human generated "greenhouse gases", are saying the increases accelerating at an alarming rate, and say we should expect increasing severe and extreme weather.
Maybe you will look up what the insurance companies are saying. Tonight, insurance company reps were on the TV news saying the storms are costing billions, and they may discontinue coverage. Who will be footing the bill after big storms?
CBS news had a story last week saying it will cost over $200 billion to address rising sea levels on the East Coast of the US alone, in less than 40 years.
So, believe what you will. It doesn't matter. The impacts are happening now, and only getting worse.
Ah, I knew the "Industrial Revolution" would ultimately get the blame for all that ails us. Uh huh.
So, obviously what we need is a candidate for some local office who understands that the "Industrial Revolution" was wrong and that the 19th, 20th and 21st Centuries have been huge mistakes. Someone who will lead back to the Golden Days of 1795 when we lived in little Eco-Villages.
And say! While we're at it, let's begin here in Port Angeles. Why not turn Port Angeles in a model Eco-Village and get rid of all things "Industrial" and live peacefully with the birds, fish, unicorns and Sasquatch. No internal combustion engines, no smokestacks, no hideous "truck routes," no "resources" being pillaged for profit! Oh joyous day! The air will be pure, the ocean will be cleansed and the Kraken will rejoice!
I'm sure there's a candidate running for a local office with just that idea in mind, right?
Yeah, you should believe everything the news and internet tell you.
Yes. The climate change impacts are happening now and getting worse. But the geniuses at City Hall nonetheless approved permits for an expanded industrial plant located on a sand spit that is barely above sea level. They also approved permits for a medical facility (the Downtown Health Center) that is similarly situated on low-lying land in a tsunami zone. And on and on with the short-sighted and unprofessional "planning" department. Gag.
"Ah, I knew the "Industrial Revolution" would ultimately get the blame for all that ails us. Uh huh."
Yeah, I can see the concept of "Cause and Effect" are pretty hard for some people to grasp.
And that "Either/Or" reactionary approach to problem solving is evident, too.
Clearly, to only obvious solution to a car with engine problems is to get rid of all cars, hunh?
Because hundreds of people die from E. Coli bacteria in contaminated meat means we need to stop eating meat all together, and kill all cows, hunh?
Within 10 years of Kennedy posing the challenge of putting a man on the moon, the technology was developed, and the goal achieved.
Now, with clear evidence that reliance on fossil fuel derived energy has resulted in very serious problems, the clear objective is to find energy sources that do not create these same problems.
Or, we can just spout silly knee jerk rhetoric, keep burning fossil fuels, and create a horrible future for our children, right?
"And say! While we're at it, let's begin here in Port Angeles"
I'm sure you approve of indebting the citizenry to the $50 million "CSO" boondoogle, and the more millions to be spent on more seawalls over by the landfill. No reason to believe both of these projects, near or at current sealevels, will be impacted any time soon?!?
This is the "model" for responsible city management? This is the way you see taxpayers' money should be spent? Those many millions are coming out of Port Angeles residents pockets.
Anon 4:06 AM, July 11, 2012:
Since going back to 1795 is going backwards...And since all you describe fits someone who is a real throwback...I assume the candidate you're talking about is Maggie Roth?
The City wastes money in great quantities on projects of, at best, questionable value or sense. The local so-called conservatives generally applaud these wasteful actions. Many thoughtful local liberals at least try to point out all the waste.
Conservatives actually conserve very little. They mostly blow out hot air, and find ways to waste money THAT THEY LIKE. No fiscal restraint, no long-term vision. Just the "fun" of spending (wasting) our tax dollars.
6:15 - Yes! And all this just makes them richer, and makes the average Joe hate government more and more - this is going on nationally but really evident here, locally. Plus, every local family has a tweaker or two, or ten, or someone with a hundred dwi's, or twenty violent convictions, and they support local "liberal" (not) judges, who have pretty much ruined our community letting these people out, giving them ten, eleven, twelve, chances - and if you don't agree you are the new breed of HATER, or intolerant person, like me - intolerant of criminals and assholes. The only reason we are literally SEEING with our own eyes, arresting people and rounding them up, is that we have a sudden influx this spring and summer, of "different" people wandering around, and they, the corrupt law around here, don't want to get caught profiling....sad sickos, the conservatives around here.
So apparently our cops were lying about cell phone records/logs etc. RE statements made in the press (ha, yes we have one) regarding the FB bandit. They don't even need warrants. Liars. Locally, I'd say it's lazyness mostly, means more work, so maybe they just don't use this new tool? Or afraid whom they will catch?
With cities across the US declaring bankruptcy, I'm wondering when Port Angeles will face the realities of declining revenues. Right now, they are continuing to spend millions on projects like there are no problems. The City is planning on Port Angeles residents to be paying these many millions for years to come.
What if people can't? We saw in last weeks' paper a passing reference to the city not being able to come up with the money to service its' current debt because of declining property tax revenues.
Perhaps you saw how Scranton, PA is now paying its' public employees $7.25 an hour. Wonder how those folks will be able to pay their mortgages, car payments, credit cards, etc. they had committed to before the dramatic decrease in income! If not, then what? More decline in revenue for the city, and then what?
What is Port Angeles' guarantee that these problems will not come here?
In High school, (1978) we were brain washed by the move "The Late, Great Planet Earth", 1970 by Hal Lindsey. The world should be all gone by now.The Liberals in those days tried to scare the hell out of us then and they are still at it. The hippies of the 60’s brought all on us. It's all just a bunch of Barbra Streisand.
Anon 6:29 AM, July 12, 2012:
Huh? Even if I account for the typos, I'm not sure what the hell you're trying to say.
I think Anon 6:29 is trying to say that concerns about climate change are unfounded, just the result of scare tactics by the hippies and Barbra Streisand.
Of course Anon 6:29 is right. The 40,000 plus new high teperature records set in the last 7 months are just "liberal "propaganda. The forests in BC aren't really dead and dying. The CO2 levels haven't actually reached 400 ppm. The oceans aren't actually turning more acid, and the massive sea life die-offs aren't actually happening. The people in the midwest and east of the US are actually experiencing an unusually cold spell. The droughts aren't really happening, and commodity futures aren't really reflecting the projected food shortages.
We are all just being brain washed to believe so by the "liberals".
Funny how this "brain washing" seems to always be a one-way deal. The "liberals" are constantly at it, but the "conservatives" are completely immune from it. They always have such pure, clear vision, with pure, patriotic intentions.
You know, like the current phrase about the wealthy being "job creators". The reality that hundreds and thousands of US corporations have located their "headquarters" in tiny Swiss towns such as Zug, and have moved all the billions syphoned off American consumers to off shore accounts somehow escapes that clear vision.
Given a choice to help revitalize America, or hoard the billions made by selling Chinese made products in America in banks outside of the US, paying no US taxes... well, the "job creators" have shown us all clearly what they do.
Anon 10:45am, you must have taken to much LSD in the 60's to not understand
Anon 12:05 PM, July 12, 2012:
Actually, I was just an infant in the 60s. But I do understand that you used "to" where you should have used "too," and that 60s doesn't require an apostrophe, and that sentences should end with a period. You might wanna watch the details if you're going to try to make "the case" for something.
However, I think we both do realize that Barbra Streisand is a terrifying abomination. SOUTH PARK also made "the case" for that quite well once. But, that's a cultural reference you might not get.
haha, the grammar cop is back, get a clue, this is a blog not an English class.
You must be an insecure person if policing grammar makes you feel superior.
Careful that chip on your shoulder might fall off and land in your "Whine".
MECHA-STREISAND!!
Also, it's '60s, as in a contraction of 1960s, not 60's as in a 60 owning something or 60s as in... I don't know, temperature?
Barbra Streisand stands for "BS" is in BULL S#!T
In the 50's and 60's there was a lot fewer of us on this rock, so what we were doing wasn't as harmful as what 7 billion people are doing.
But keep spitting those babies you think are so precious out, we'll need them for the Soylent Green, at least it'll be an American made product.
Abandon all hope ye who enter here! Have a drink.
Keep pumping that oil. Keep mining that coal. Why change now??
Your children will thank you.
Thunder, lightning, particulates from wood being burned creating rain, OH MY!
Your children will thank you.
I wouldn't know about that, I don't talk them, they are idiots.
If you look into it, you will find a lot of scientific data that says major shifts in the planets' climate have happened over a period of a few decades in the past, not the hundreds and thousands of years we have been lead to believe.
Are we starting to see that, now?
United States
2 Jul 2012 – Shell estimates it has spent more than $4 billion on Arctic offshore development. The target is the 26.6 billion barrels of recoverable oil..
www.msnbc.msn.com/.../arctic-drilling-creeps-forward-... -
So, knowing that the use of their product in its' advertised and intended manner is causing billions in property damages, and deaths across the globe, the oil company proceeds to spend billions to produce even more.
What is the difference from the lawsuits against pharmo companies for known side affects to their products?
Why not spend the billions to invent new, "sustainable" energy sources?
Do you ever drive in a car? How about a bus?
The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported last week, "and [the] world has been cooling for 2,000 years."
http://news.yahoo.com/does-tree-ring-study-put-chill-global-warming-170718316.html
"Do you ever drive in a car? How about a bus?"
Did you ever do something you later found out to be wrong, illegal, or harmful?
There is no doubt burning fossil fuels is killing the planet, and ourselves. How many times, how many ways do you need to hear it before you figure out you need to find other ways to make things work?
Look it up for yourself. You will see we are in the midst of the most massive die-off of life the planet has ever seen.
What is it going to take, to get investment in research and development for new sources of power that won't kill us and the planet?
What are we waiting for?
Barbra Streisand
"The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported last week, "and [the] world has been cooling for 2,000 years.".."
Right. The 40,000 high temp records set in the last 7 months in the US alone didn't really happen, and the ocean isn't really getting more acid, etc.
The folks over at Taylor Shellfish company, who are amongst the largest shellfish growers in the area, did not report their larval oyster die-off because of acid seawater.
As said before. You can spout what ever self serving rhetoric you want, it doesn't matter. You don't really think your "Barbara Streisand" comment makes ANY difference in the outcome?
You ARE, and will continue to pay the bills as climate change devastates crops, homes and infrastructure. Keep saying "Barbra Streisand" as you write the checks. See if that makes a difference.
Why would anyone want to invest in clean power, when we can continue to pollute and destroy our own environment?
I mean, where is the fun in that?
Fact: we had over 20,000 record low temps in calendar year 2011, and unseasonably cold weather ruled the world in early 2012.
Yeah, that is why the last 15 years have been the hottest on record. "Global Dimming" is actually cooling the planet, which is why the last 15 years have been the hottest on record!
80% of the US is not actually in a drought, and crop prices are not actually rising as a result. It is actually cool and wet across the US, and anybody who tells you otherwise is a victim of the "liberal media".
Cold weather ruled the world in early 2012? I guess North America is not part of the world, according to you?! I guess the Arctic ice isn't really melting, nor the glaciers all over the globe.
You're right. There are no problems. Everything is great, and getting better. Any person can easily see that.
From Fox News Radio: "2011 is the tenth warmest year on record".
Even from FoxNews!?!?
And in todays news: "‘The Dust Bowl of 2012′: Drought Covers Majority Of U.S. And ‘Might Be A $50 Billion Event For The Economy’".
3 Jul 2012 – Heat is beating records around the country: the first five months of 2012 have been the hottest on record in the contiguous United States.
FoxNews.com
Yeah, really cold! Unseasonably cold, for sure.
Of interest: "Yet another poll finds Americans do understand the planet is warming and driving more extreme weather. The Washington Post/Stanford University poll conducted in mid-June — before the recent monster heat wave — found 6 in 10 Americans understand that the climate is warming and weather patterns are becoming more unstable. Poll details are here.
A full 77% agree government should “limit the amount of greenhouse gasses that U.S.businesses put out.” This is consistent with other 2012 polls (see “Poll: 75 Percent of Americans Support Regulating CO2 As A Pollutant, 60 Percent Support Revenue-Neutral Carbon Tax“). "
Contact your political reps, and let them know the majority of us want limits on CO2, NOW!
We better get rid of cattle because of cattle farts.
No, you better get rid of the cattle because "spending" thousands of gallons of water to grow grain to feed to cattle (about 40 pounds worth per pound of beef), who also require even more water, is a tremendously wasteful use of resources. One of the by-products of climate change and resource depletions will be an increase in vegetarianism, which will be a good thing all the way around.
"One of the by-products of climate change and resource depletions will be an increase in vegetarianism, which will be a good thing all the way around."
Don't be silly. The Soylent Corporation is already hard at work developing foods for the new millennium, including their revolutionary product simply called "Green".
Oh? Someone in this thread has mentioned this already? Well, obviously the demand for "Green" is growing in leaps and bounds!
Do you know what you call a vegetarian with diarrhea?
A SALAD SHOOTER!!!!
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