Peninsula Poll: Genetically Engineered Salmon
Today's Peninsula Poll question is: Now that the FDA has given a tentative clearance, would you eat genetically engineered salmon?
With 805 votes cast, the results are:
No: 75.0%
Yes: 13.3%
Maybe: 9.1%
Undecided: 2.6%
With 805 votes cast, the results are:
No: 75.0%
Yes: 13.3%
Maybe: 9.1%
Undecided: 2.6%
posted by Tom Harper at 10:59 AM
44 Comments:
Do you think genetically modified salmon will be labeled as such? Are we going to be given a choice?
What other foods are on store shelves that contain ingredients from genetically modified animals and plants?
Oh, please. Most people don't eat salmon anyway! One would need to poll SALMON EATERS in order to gain any insight from this.
The money to be made from this will come from selling the technology/patents to China or to other entities that are concerned with future food needs.
But this doesn't go against God! That is explained in another headline/article on the Peninsula Daily Teabag website - the teabag op-ed from the NYT slamming the devil worshiping homos. FUCK YOU PDN. I'm not inviting ANY OF YOU closet cases to my homo wedding.
"Each species of farmed fish…has its own requirements…Carnivorous species…are usually fed fish meal…The cost of providing food for farmed salmon is nearly as high as the price the salmon can command; moreover, in this case, farming contributes to overfishing because the small fish…are harvested almost exclusively for fish meal. To feed the carnivores, fishermen are fishing for fish to feed to fish."
Richard Ellis - THE EMPTY OCEAN
"We need another and a wiser and perhaps a more mystical concept of animals…We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, we greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complex than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the spendour and travail of the earth."
Henry Boston (1928)
"You talk about capital investment, but behind these fine words lurks nothing but an animal greed for more. I say animal, but that is an insult to animals, for an animal eats only until it has had its fill."
Joseph Goebbels
Why is it not the LAW that genetically engineered foods are clearly labeled?
Why aren't the Tea Party types, and "free market" types demanding this? Shouldn't consumer demand drive the markets? How is hiding this information helping people make informed choices?
It would take a National Socialist to quote the Jew-hating Goebels.
So, they're "setting traps" to draw in first responders, so that they can shoot them?
I guess the NRA will propose that first responders be accompanied by armed policemen, now.
What happenss when the "bad guys" wear uniforms of EMTs, firefighters or policemen? You know, like they do in Afghanistan?
How pathetic.
If things go to hell I'd eat the neighbors dogs so I guess such salmon isn't any big deal.
Sigh, firemen shot. Shootings in Texas, Wisconsin kill two police officers.
No wonder gun sales are up, it's getting insane in this country.
And all the talk about gun control that won't produce much in decent results. I control my guns with both hands.
If you are buying Salmon from a store, then you have never had "good" tasting salmon...
Salmon(as well as all fish), is marked fresh, if it has only been frozen once...the commercial guys flash freeze all fish the day they catch it. The fish could be 5 days old, it could be 50 days old- just depends on when they decide to thaw it.
Fresh, not frozen. Merry Christmas
Yes, as ocean acidification caused by CO2 from burning fossil fuels kills off the pterapods, which make up 50% of the wild salmon's diet, I can see this will become a real concern.
There will be no more wild salmon, as the food chain in the oceans collapse. This has already started, BTW. So, we'll need this Frankenfish in our failing efforts to create food for ourselves.
One problem, as already pointed out, is that farmed fish are carnivorous, and need other fish (ground up into fish food pellets)as food. But as the marine food chain collapses, these food fish species will become increasingly scarce.
Maybe we'll just feed them Big Macs.
... or tofu. Wouldn't vegan fish be preferable in our Eco-Village?
Eco-Village? Reminds me of the morons who thought the world was going to end, and spent big money on shelters of various kinds.
Right. With no more world, logically, a shelter in your backyard will be the thing to turn to!
Likewise, with the world's food chain collapsing, our bright lights suggest shelter in an "Eco-Village".
Many of us support turning Port Angeles into an Eco-Village and renaming it "Tze Whitzen". We will become a self-sufficient community of agrarians and will abolish the so-called "free market" economy in favor of a barter system.
I'm sorry you are stuck in negative, regressive thinking patterns of the failed 19th and 20th Centuries.
Good luck with that.
Sounds like Max has been smoking his socks again.
Sounds like the guy with the hard on for Max has returned.
Sigh.
"Many of us support turning Port Angeles into an Eco-Village and renaming it "Tze Whitzen". We will become a self-sufficient community of agrarians and will abolish the so-called "free market" economy in favor of a barter system."
Sadly, I think you really mean this. Naive doesn't even begin to describe this idea...
"The state Department of Ecology has given the city until 2016 to complete the CSO project or face fines of up to $10,000 for each additional combined sewer overflow that happens after the deadline."
Is this true? How many years (or decades) worth of overflows could we have paid for with the money spent on this giant sewage tank?
"Many of us support turning Port Angeles into an Eco-Village..."
Who are the "many"? How are they organized? Where do they meet, currently?
And, where is the farmland these "agrarians" think they are going to be using, in Port Angeles? How do they think they are going to support a population of 20,000?
As if creating an "Eco Village" shelter from the ever increasing environmental degradation is an "answer". No different than the "end of the world" nuts buying bomb shelters to hide it. As if a person or group will hide from the world wide impacts, and survive for very long.
Take this comment seriously? Hardly.
One might even say this person has a Max Mania!
Been a few years since I mentioned the words, “Exponential Acceleration.”
"Is this true? How many years (or decades) worth of overflows could we have paid for with the money spent on this giant sewage tank?"
The really pathetic part of this CSO/sewage overflow issue is that it is caused by almost half of Port Angeles resident's roof's gutters being directly connected to the sewage system (according to city documents). Duh! Ya wonder why it floods out during heavy rains?
If you do the math, the rain collected on those roofs and dumped into the system almost exactly matches the amount of the overflows.
But, why do the cheap and easy solution, when you can obligate the taxpayers to tens of millions in a really stupid and unnecessary project?
Because Cutler knows people in Port Angles are just a bunch of wimps who will do nothing. And he is right.
Gone but not forgotten...Cutler does whatever Karen Rogers wants him to, just like Cherie Kidd does whatever Karen Rogers wants her to. Rogers is "officially" gone, but her influence remains.
Of course, the only power she has is that people are afraid of her, which is, of course, stupid. SHE CANNOT DO ANYTHING TO ANYONE, other than be unpleasant to you, which is how she will be anyway. So why so many people do her bidding is a mystery to me.
In any case, I'm SO looking forward to 2013, when I'll be getting out of this backwoods, backwater, backwards little shithole. It's all yours, Karen. I hope you and Nippon enjoy your raping and pillaging.
Anonymous at 7:44 -- this is one shithole that will be REALLY GLAD to be rid of you. Some of us love this town, have hope for the future, and feel that negativity is a big part of the problem. So please do go elsewhere and blight that place.
"Some of us love this town, have hope for the future, and feel that negativity is a big part of the problem."
No, the problem, as outlined above, is that those in charge of this town are corrupt, incompetent, and/or just plain idiots. THAT is what blights this place, not my (rational) reaction to such retarded "leadership." And said "leadership" isn't likely to change anytime soon, because the good people won't get involved, and because the morons all have "kin folk" who need jobs.
To repeat: It isn't negative to say that the people running (ruining) this town are idiots. It's just stating a fact. You gonna disagree with that fact? Do you really think we have just and wise and honest leaders? Do you think their heads are filled with creative, positive, sustainable visions of the future? If so, then I have some swamp land I'd like to talk to you about...It's right down by the scenic new Crock of Shit - I mean, CSO tank - on the shoreline...
"Some of us love this town, have hope for the future, and feel that negativity is a big part of the problem"
Yes, this is a supposedly free country, until you do or say things the powers-that-be don't like.
You are free to stay here in Port Angeles, and hope.
As you might have noticed on the news, the country is moving ahead, economy improving. But not in Port Angeles.
So, you just keep hoping, and stay in this shithole. No one has to. Intelligent people assess their situations, and make choices, usually to better their lives.
The "negativity in this town" comes from the entrenched special interests who are conning the long-time locals and consistently try to discredit, silence, and bully those who can see through them.
For some reason, the long-time locals are so, so easy to con. Maybe it is because they fear change from 19th century ways that they are ripe for exploitation by people like Thomas Aldwell and corporations like Rayonier and Nippon whose primary goals are for personal or corporate wealth. Such users sense the local leadership vacuum and are skilled at manipulating the political scene to their advantage at the expense of the public good.
Or put another way...Any town that thinks Cherie Kidd is fit to be mayor is a town in trouble. Big, deep, lasting trouble.
I don't think you can create a positive attitude in a community by taking residents to court for volunteering to collect signatures!
I don't think you can create a positive attitude in a community by threatening to turn off resident's water unless they agree to the city's proposals!
I don't think you can create a positive attitude in a community when they see millions of dollars wasted, repeatedly on projects that fail.
As I watch Pen-Ply be demolished, I am reminded of the response by former Port Angeles city council member, former partner of Pen-Ply and current owner of the operations shipping logs to China from the same site when asked to pay back taxpayers what his company owed: "They can pound sand".
Exactly.
There's a lot of greed here, but that seems true of most places now.
I'm pretty sure that Cherie Kidd is the last person I would say that about, she's a damn fine woman, and a damn talented one, I just don't understand why she wastes all that on politics.
Cherie means well, but she is not very smart. Cutler yanks her around like a puppet!
I disagree, I think that Cherie is pretty smart, but like many smart people can get some stupid beliefs and ideas. There seems to be a special insanity that runs in politicians, that's why you never see wise people running for office.
I've worked with Cherie, too. I know first hand how smart she is not.
She talks a good line, though.
Anonymous @ 4:29 PM
Just what in the hell are you expecting her to be smart about? She's just a goddamn mayor, with little real power, and the next one won't be any better so just deal with it.
She's misguided but she is a nice lady, unless she's changed since I used to be around her some.
If you think you are so damn smart why don't you run for the job?
I've bitched about her at times but I do like the little shit.
I'd likely step in front of a speeding bullet for Cherie, or shoot back at someone shooting at her.
But I can't say I would do that for some anonymous coward that doesn't even have a profile and let us know who they are.
There's more fucking cowards on this blog than I can shake a stick at. 2013 is about to come down on us, deal with it, it's not going to get any better.
LOL! You're a funny guy, Billy.
If someone you don't know is in trouble, how do you know if they are a coward, or not?
Since you can't know beforehand, it sounds like you would not help a stranger in trouble.
Which, knowing you, I know is not true!
Oh, I would help a stranger in trouble if I could. I'm not sure how though, I talk about guns a lot but I seldom pack one or have one handy if I was to need one.
I'm small and made of meat and getting to old to hold up long in a fight. Such is life.
What happened to the "Recall Cherie Kidd" effort? Gosh, from what I've read on this board it seems like you could collect oh - 28 signatures at the very least.
How can we recall her when she won't go away?
"What happened to the "Recall Cherie Kidd" effort?"
Why bother? Port Angeles will just end up with another clown to take her place.
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