Monday, July 07, 2014

Derek Kilmer wants EPA to tackle Victoria Sewage Problem

Rep. Derek Kilmer has asked EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy to raise the Victoria sewage issue with her counterpart in the Canadian government.  McCarthy will attend the annual meeting of the Commission for Environmental Cooperation later this month.

The Township of Esquimalt had been planning to complete a water treatment facility by 2018, but that project was derailed.


17 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tackling turds!

7:34 PM, July 07, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, it is the Township of Esquimalt that is intentionally, and is solely responsible for, stopping the 8 years of work to build sewage treatment facilities.

The Mayor, Barb Desjardin (who recently visted Port Angeles) is pandering to the Tea Party equivilants in the Victoria area, who don't want ANY sewage treatment facilities built. They cloak themselves in enviro sounding talk, but are as regressive as they come.

The issue is about setback variances needed for the buildings, on a site already zoned for treatment facilities. Barb and crew used this as a means to stop the whole project. Shameful.

The project was to start construction this summer.

Glad Kilmer has taken this on.

11:14 PM, July 07, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, Kilmer is anti-Canadian-teabagger, wow, what courage, vision and leadership. Practice for when he puts on his big boy pants? Hope so!

1:07 AM, July 08, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ha, he's an idiot

10:05 AM, July 08, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, Kilmer is for clean water in Canada. Watch, any day now he will be advocating for birth control in China.

3:33 PM, July 08, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sigh.

3:33 PM, July 08, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know, the concept that the crap from Victoria, millions of gallons each day, pollutes our "shared waters" may be difficult for some to grasp.

That current studies show the currents bring the crap to the beaches of Port Angeles. Enjoy those locally caught crabs, do you?

Why would a local representative care about our health, our fishing and other related industries? What a dumb idea, hunh?

4:38 PM, July 08, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can see Canada and the US getting in a major nasty war over the environment/water/economy in the future. Especially if we keep moving to the left, and they keep moving to the right. Eventually, the huge immigrant influx that happened in Canada is going to drive the teaparty types there bonkers (mayor of Toronto, hello) and we are going to wake up and realize we have a rich version of Russia just north of us. Most of the country is VERY white and they love exploiting their resources. A little bit of extra poop in the straits is a drop in the bucket compared to the pollution released by deforestation in BC. Just saying. Mr. Floatie might even help balance out the extra minerals released into the water. It has to go somewhere. Like we know what to do with our own poop. Just like their oil, that will be a big moneymaker in transportation, refining, for the region. Goodbye green future for the PNW, if Canada has it's way. At least the tourists have something to read about as they plan their vacation. It's summer, Mr. Floatie floats back up, on cue.

5:26 PM, July 08, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@5:26 PM

You're right, in some regards. Much of Canada, like the US, only cares about their own personal situation. As you see, most of the vehicles for sale on the lots at Price Ford are big pickup trucks and the like. More people are shopping at Walmart, than any other store in Port Angeles.

But, it isn't that simple. Yes, Canada and the US want to pump and sell as much oil and coal as they can. Remember, the US is the worlds' top oil producer, and oil is the US' number one export now. So "green".

At the same time, the earth is wreaking havoc all over. Yeah, I know the PDN doesn't report what is going on, but google "record rainfall 2014". And, "record drought 2014".

Like it or not, people all over are facing the consequences of fossil fuel use, and it's only going to get worse.

So, whereas Canada and the US may be investing heavily in fossil fuel exploitation, the time is coming where it is not going to be a desirable product.

Mr. Floatie? He has done a LOT to change the situation in Victoria. If only more people would make half the effort he has.

11:21 PM, July 08, 2014  
Anonymous DICK LOVER said...

4:38 - Actually, it's called SARCASM. It's such a RIPE subject for it! You're welcome! Kilmer is ok, I mean shit, he's a Dem., but I miss Norm. I like politicians that stay one step ahead of my forward thinking brain, not ten years behind - but we take what we can get, don't we, actually? And I know I've ruined it for everyone in the region with my weekly sarcastic comment. And I'm actually very sorry. Not.

12:45 AM, July 09, 2014  
Blogger John Newcomb said...

No clear, evidence-based case has yet been made for further sewage treatment in Victoria:

- Washington and BC marine scientists' report says effect of Victoria's sewage on area waters is negligible: http://goo.gl/ExTy7Z

- Several BC marine scientists' published letter says impact of Victoria's long screened effluent outfall discharge on marine waters is very low risk: http://goo.gl/zIbeu

- Recent published letter by several BC marine scientists reiterate that impact of Victoria sewage is very low: scroll down to "Scientists on sewage treatment": http://focusonline.ca/?q=node/651

- Responsible Sewage Treatment Victoria has many other science and public health opinions that support Victoria's current sustainable marine-based sewage treatment system: http:www.rstv.ca

3:38 PM, July 09, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

See? There are people in Victoria that think dumping millions of gallons of raw sewage into "our shared waters" every day is perfectly okay!

Mr. Newcomb is one of those Teabagger types that masquarades as being concerned about the environment.

This guy is so out there, that he and his group RSTV stated the best way to control the chemicals, personal care products and medicines people take that go down the drains, is to BAN them!

That is right. No kidding. These crazy folks think banning household cleaners and people's medicines is a better solution, than joining the modern world, and building the sewage treatment facilities mandated by Canadian law.

And the scientists? This guy will probably trot out scientists that say there is no such thing as Climate Change, too.


And you thought stupidity was confined to Clallam County?

4:30 PM, July 09, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Responsible Sewage Treatment Victoria has many other science and public health opinions that support Victoria's current sustainable marine-based sewage treatment system"

In other words, he is saying he doesn't want to see sewage treatment plants get built?

Boycott Victoria. Spread it far and wide. Put it on Facebook.

They are not trying, they don't even want to.

7:49 PM, July 09, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks. Now I know.

I put the boycott message out today. What is wrong with those people? Don't they care about our planet?

It's like , disgusting.

6:36 PM, July 10, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And what is our underlying authority to ask another nation to yield to our environmental request? The "pretty please" doctrine?

1:52 PM, July 13, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geee. The US sure doesn't mind whipping sanctions on Russia over suspicions it is involved in the Ukraine.

The US doesn't mind having military bases all over the world, to "influence" policies in countries far and wide.

The US spends huge sums in "foriegn aid" to support countries all over the world in doing things it wants, including "environmental" issues.

The US doesn't mind literally destabilizing legitimate governments it doesn't agree with.

Hell, the US goes to war to ensure control of its' oil supply.

And, we haven't even gotten into spying on other nation's leaders, even its' own allies, in order to influence outcomes.

Finally, do you remember the Bush Doctrine, where the US claims the "right" to attack other countries "pre-emptively", based only upon its' own suspicions that the other country MIGHT be considering doing harm to the US?

Seems the US claims all kinds of "rights" to tell other countries to do WHAT EVER it wants.

(Of course, no other countries are allowed similar "rights")

Just sayin'.

7:49 PM, July 13, 2014  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Authority? Just join the boycott. Spread the word every way you can. It worked 20 years ago, to get them to promise to do something.

Talk is cheap. Doesn't cost anybody anything. But boycotts make them worried. Use every medium you can think of to tell people that Victoria dumps millions of gallons of raw sewage into our waters, every day. Ask them to write to the mayor of Esquimalt, and tell her that they are boycotting Victoria, and spreading the word. Or write to the BC premier, and tell her.

We have the authority.

9:03 PM, July 13, 2014  

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