Clallam County Democrats: Stop Harbor-Works Funding
The Clallam County Democratic Party has resolved that funding for Harbor-Works should be stopped, or put to a public vote before it can continue.
Delegates adopted this resolution on Saturday; it was passed unanimously. The resolution asks the city and the Port of Port Angeles to “suspend payments from public funds on behalf of the authority,” or hold a public “advisory vote” to see if local citizens want to continue funding Harbor-Works.
Delegates adopted this resolution on Saturday; it was passed unanimously. The resolution asks the city and the Port of Port Angeles to “suspend payments from public funds on behalf of the authority,” or hold a public “advisory vote” to see if local citizens want to continue funding Harbor-Works.
posted by Tom Harper at 9:14 PM
45 Comments:
Good work Democrats. The resolution calls for Rayonier to pay cleanup costs and not the taxpayer.
I suspect that HarborWorks is a bait and switch. I bet the "alternatives" will go by the wayside after they get hold of the property. Then they will claim there is not enough money to clean it up to standards that allow public access and will have to settle for an industrial cleanup.
That is what I suspect anyway.
It is good to see others in the community taking a stand on this. it is an excellent resolution.
From everything I've heard, I still believe that the long-term "vision" for the Rayonier site (at least from the Port's perspective) is a biomass facility. Check out the homepage (www.onrc.washington.edu) of John Calhoun's "day job." It touts biomass.
This gels with the comment from 12:29AM - because if we can "only" get Rayonier to clean the property up to industrial standards, and no one has funds to clean it up more, then the only use can be industrial - which is what biomass would be classified. (But replacing one polluting industry with another polluting industry doesn't seem like progress to me.)
HarborWorks is STILL wedded to secrecy. There Board is STILL made up of people with one, limited perspective. And the Port commissioners are STILL only willing to consider industrial uses for the property - even though economic development could take many different forms there.
People gripe about the City Council, but really, the Port is much more corrupt than the Council is (in my opinion). I wouldn't trust any of the commissioners to do anything other than what will line their pockets.
Norma, get over it, you lost, TWICE. Now your going to make the Democratic party look foolish.
You make us educated folks sick.
Capitalist:
If you are "educated folks" then I'm sure you will want to know that you used the wrong "your" in "your" statement. It should be "you're".
Also, "party" in Democratic Party should be capitalized.
In other news, thank you , Norma. As F. Scott Fitzgerald said: "Never confuse a single defeat with a final defeat." Keep pushing, keep fighting.
We are lucky to have someone of Norma's hard working ethic being put to use to make our area a safer and better place to be for all of us.
Rayonier made the mess, Rayonier needs to be held accountable to clean it up to a state as clean as possible to what it was before they set foot there.
I know some of the Old Timers who used to be workers down there, and what they can tell you about the level of contaminants would leave you incredulous and curdle your blood.
Crazy liberal tree huggers are at it again!
Wathcher i stand corrected, i never said i was an English major. That being said, I have 3 undergrad degrees and my MBA.
The property has sat for over a decade, it needs to be cleaned up, and sold. If the taxpayers foot the bill so be it, but the ROI has to be quick and in the taxpayers best interest.
If Harbor Works folds, the land will sit for centuries and do no one any good.
This is a perfect economic development strategy, get it?
Rayonier will never pay to clean up that site so just forget that nonsense.
The property has sat for over a decade, it needs to be cleaned up, and sold.
Why? I think that it's doing just fine as is. Let it sit for a hundred years as is and nature will clean it up. It's not like we really need the space for anything special.
Maybe open it up to campers for free that are okay with 'dry camping', lots of towns have free camping parks for travelers. Oh, I don't suppose that works for the monkeys that want to figure out how to make some money off of it.
Never mind...
Don't provide some free basic camping for folks that will be going into town and doing some shopping, that just doesn't make any sense at all. :-)
If Rayonier doesn't clean up, the site returns to EPA's National Priority Cleanup List, i.e. on the Superfund List, which Rayonier adamantly does not want for shareholder reasons.
It will be cleaned beyond Industrial, unless the Port gets its hands on the property. The Port will insure it stays polluted, industrial polluted, and citizens will be charged for whatever the Port wants to do with the site.
We need to build a big mall and steakhouse there so people can have jobs. Or a factory. Build a factory there and a steakhouse so people can have lots of jobs.
WHO WILL BE NEXT?
KESSLER STEPS OUT OF RACE
Former Port Angeles Mayor Karen Rogers "could be a strong candidate," suggested Dick Piling, chair of the Clallam County Republican Central Committee.
Rogers did not return repeated calls for comment Tuesday afternoon. A spokesperson explained that Rogers was busy skinning Dalmatians in her basement workshop, and couldn't be bothered.
Annon 10:53,
Get a grip, there is no basis for your comment,
Run hide the sky is falling!!! :)
Please
The port is corrupt. We all know that. Stop Harbor-Works because it's a sweetheart deal to allow Rayonier to never clean it up, and to walk away. They think we're all rubes.....ready for the fleecing.
This is, yet again, a special Port Angeles reaming of the population, if you really think that Harbor Works is a good idea.
Definitely need a mall there. Because the existing malls (Harbor Town Mall, the Armory Square Mall and the Landing Mall) are all doing so well.
Some of you need to purchase a copy of Elements of Style and make it your constant companion. The grammatical skills of many, many posters is atrocious.
I'm just sayin' is all;
--Harbor Town Mall, the Armory Square Mall and the Landing Mall--
The HarborTowne Mall is a sh*thole that is managed by an imbecile and owned by a moron. Armory Square was designed by someone who had NO IDEA how to design a mall, much less not make a building feel super CREEPY, and the Landing Mall doesn't have enough parking -- and may have been designed by a blind person on a cocktail napkin.
A mall would be nice, but I don't see that happening around here, and wouldn't trust anyone to execute it correctly.
Some of you need to purchase a copy of Elements of Style and make it your constant companion. The grammatical skills of many, many posters is atrocious.
English is a piece of shit, don't tell me how to use it, I'll put my frigging commas where I want to and the wordsmiths can go to hell. :-)
Harper...re the comment from the Watcher about Karen Rogers and the fake quote. I suggest you remove the quote or consult your attorney about libel and slander laws.
Bet you don't have the stones to publish this one....
Someone touched a nerve with BBC, ha
Funny, of those three malls, Armory Square is the one that seems the most brightest and invitingest to me. (Take THAT Strunk & White!) It's still dead in there, but since it's now all government type offices I guess it doesn't have to be terribly exciting. The Landing always seemed like a tomb to me with a bunch of confusing nooks and crannies. I think the re-design made it even worse. And HarborTowne is... wow. You know, I remember when Sorensen's was in there, with clothes were Indian Oven is and a bike shop underneath and it was a pretty vibrant place. I explored it again last summer. It was mostly empty, there was mold all over the lower level and it stank. I skedaddled out of there quickly.
I used dismiss the argument that this town is dying. But, tell you what, comparing those three malls today to 20 years ago is sure depressing.
Also, on today's PDN poll "Do you believe the economy is getting better", I wish there was an option to select "yes, but not here".
Anonymous @ 5:24 a.m.: Anyone who couldn't figure out that The Watcher's quote was tongue-in-cheek, probably couldn't figure out how to log onto the Internet.
Someone touched a nerve with BBC, ha
I simply stated what I and many others truly believe. That English is a piece of crap. Wordsmiths get pretty smug about themselves but they're full of crap also. :-)
If the Enlgish language is, as you put it, "a piece of shit", then why are you writing and speaking in it?
I'm jest sayin iz ahl/
I wuz born and raised in dis country, dats what they taught me to use. It's pretty common in these parts ya know. :-)
One of the first things you learn when you start learning Spanish (another piece of crap) is that there is a lot of dialects, well, there’s a lot of different dialects in English also.
One thing that really irritates me is that wordsmiths keep coming up with new complex words to replace simple words that have been around for a long time. Why? Just leave well enough alone. They appear to do it in order to make it seem (to them) that they are more special and cultured and all that shit. No, they’re just other monkeys fucking around on this rock.
BTW, when I said that many people think that English is a piece of crap I didn’t mean just the village idiots, a lot of very intelligent people also think so. Einstein for example.
One more point, everyone at times makes mistakes in word usage, grammar, and spelling. As long as you get the message just let it go at that, I’m not interested in a report card from you.
Albert Einstein was German so English was not his native language. I'm sure that from his perspective, the ultra-precise german language was vatly superior.
If English is so terrible, why is it the international language used in diplomacy, international business and air traffic control (among other world-wide uses)?
because we are the world's super arrogant power. Wait, in the next 50 years Chinese will be the major language.
You obviously don't know much about the Chinese language. We may not be the "only super power", but Chinese will never replace English as the global language of business and diplomacy.
English is vastly more adaptable and utilitarian than any other language in the world.
English: the language of Shakespeare, Milton and the King James Bible. English rocks!
Uh...Cantonese or Mandarin?
Albert Einstein was German so English was not his native language. I'm sure that from his perspective, the ultra-precise german language was vatly superior.
You haven't studied Einstein much? I'm pretty sure that he didn't feel that the German language was superior. He just went with what he needed to use depending on what country he was in.
English is vastly more adaptable and utilitarian than any other language in the world.
Someone told you that so you believe it?
But it would be okay if the wordsmiths would stop messing with it and making it more complicated.
All most of us have to know to communicate well with each other is about five hundred words.
Uh...Cantonese or Mandarin?
Proving my point of different dialects. Go to England and see how your American English fares.
Oh for chrissakes...the Democraps just need to STFU!!!
Hate to disappoint you, Billy, old sport, but I could go to England and fit right in. That's because I was taught the proper use of English, our native tongue.
I am routinely mistaken for a Brit by Europeans, Asians and a large swath of Americans because I can speak the language properly.
I would also suggest that you look up the word "dialect" in a dictionary and read the definition before you base your argument on a faulty premise. That includes you, too, Watcher.
"500 words" ... that's a laugh. And ignorant. But then you're really here to provide the comic relief, aren't you Billy?
Funny, 20 years ago we were all going to need to learn Japanese. Konichiwa! Now it's Chinese.
Of course, 20 years ago the USA said, "huh, we're losing ground here", rolled up our sleeves and made ourselves much more competitive. And then the bottom dropped out of the Japanese economy for a decade. Oh well, they still export some good movies. Domo arigato!
Nowadays the USA is so locked in battle with itself. One person says "we need to re-tool our economy to compete in the global marketplace", the next two people dismiss that statement as either a liberal plot to install a one-world government or a conservative plot to turn us all into zombie consumers. And then there's a third person who starts rambling about something that has nothing to do with anything but sure gets the comments flowing and the blood boiling!
I hope the US isn't looking at its own Lost Decade. From what I've seen we're so polarized it's paralyzing. School scores keep plummeting. Jobs keep going elsewhere. Money goes elsewhere. Our leaders are in deadlock. And there aren't enough people that realize this isn't the 1980s and we need to get better quick. It's not just China. There's a whole huge world out there that's hungry for an economic boost.
I don't think we need to learn Chinese, and the end of the United States isn't coming anytime. There's just going to be more superpowers out there soon. And we may head down a notch or two for a bit. But I'm worried that if we don't get smarter quickly we'll eventually (like, 20, 50 years?) wind up way down the list. Just a concern.
Greeting from the Anti Semi Colon League. We at ASCL are fighting mad about the continued promotion of the useless semi colon in society. We are demonstrating against the semi colon, we are lobbying against the semi colon and we aim to remove the semi colon from keyboards across America.
Let those Socialist Euros keep their semi colons. We free-born Americans want no part of it! Big Government closet Commie types want to impose the semi colon on us. The Liberal Democrats are concocting legislation that will require every American to adopt use of the semi colon and the UN will send out their jack booted thugs to enforce this and strip us of our Freedoms! Rise up now before it is too late!!
We at the Anti Semi Colon League blame that Socialist in the White House, Obama, for all of this. Obama's Semi Colon agenda must be stopped in it's tracks!
(Please do not point out that the semi colon has been in use long before Obama became president. That just tells us how deeply you've been indoctrinated with Socialist Semi Colon propaganda!)
Rolls eyes at Hank.
I visit some English blogs everyday and believe me, while I mostly understand them they use words that throw me.
But I'm sure that you would do fine with you're proper English during a chat with the Queen. :-)
And it's not likely that I'm any more ignorant than you, we're all ignorant. :-)
We still love you, BBC, even if you have a limited vocabulary. Keep on rockin' in the free world, dude!
We still love you, BBC, even if you have a limited vocabulary. Keep on rockin' in the free world, dude!
What makes you think I have a limited vocabulary just because I avoid a lot of words? I know them, I just resist using them.
Billy, do you feel the need to respond to absolutely every post that references you? I'm just sayin is all ...
Billy, do you feel the need to respond to absolutely every post that references you? I'm just sayin is all ..
Of course I do, any other questions?
Yeah, I have one. When you and Albert Einstein were chillin' in the hood, did you discuss the proper useof the semi colon or did you and Al just knock back some cold brewskis and watch the game on tv?
Einstein died in 1955 and I never met him in person to discuss anything with him. But if we had we damn sure wouldn't have discussed the proper use of semi colons.
Nor would we have watched sports, he wasn't into them and neither am I.
I've just studied him a lot, I suggest you read, Einstein on Peace, and Einstein - His life and universe, by Walter Isaacson.
And of course you can learn a lot about him on the Internut. But if he was still here today I'm sure that some of his views would be different.
Anonymous, you appear to consider yourself somewhat of an English whiz.
Okay, but are you any good at something more useful?
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